Bury expelled from the FL

[Old_pie]

Gutted for Bury fans and everyone connected with the Club. We were extremely close to the same outcome ourselves. I think the EFL has a lot to answer for for its "governance". The fit and proper person test is a joke. How Steve Dale was allowed to buy Bury for £1 in the condition it was clearly in is beyond me. He clearly didn't have the means or the interest to keep them going.

Who else was in the queue to buy them? And if they had more money why didn't they succeed?

[The_Don_ORiordan]

Our council did right by us, why would the council in Bury be any different?

Did they?

Back when Scardino needed a guarantor (not the money) for the 2mil loan he agreed to buy the club the city council said it “wasn’t willing to risk taxpayers money”, just a few years after lending our (not in the city area) red neighbours over 5 times that (which the defaulted on payment of a number of times) to improve their stadium.

They then charged the HG trust the full amount payable on the lease for the ground despite knowing it was for the survival of the club.

In more recent timed they have done NOTHING to help or assist in our recent crisis. Where even local MP’s have been involved.

The council would rather see us gone so they can redevelop the area, so thank god for the HG trust.

[MagpieMike]

Did they?

Back when Scardino needed a guarantor (not the money) for the 2mil loan he agreed to buy the club the city council said it “wasn’t willing to risk taxpayers money”, just a few years after lending our (not in the city area) red neighbours over 5 times that (which the defaulted on payment of a number of times) to improve their stadium.

They then charged the HG trust the full amount payable on the lease for the ground despite knowing it was for the survival of the club.

In more recent timed they have done NOTHING to help or assist in our recent crisis. Where even local MP’s have been involved.

The council would rather see us gone so they can redevelop the area, so thank god for the HG trust.

Don't agree with this at all. The Council exposed Alex May as a convicted fraudster, and were (are) very supportive of the Club.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Surely liquidation and a phoenix club entering the league at a lower level is their only way forward?

Sad, sad day and a pox on all things Sky.............

It would be easier I agree but it's not out of the question.

On a slightly separate but interesting note. Bury have now also been excluded from the FA Cup and the FA are having discussions going forward as to how that impacts the first round proper.

It may seem crass, but one thing that spring to mind was as the highest placed relegated team, we might get a bye or taken straight into the first round proper so we don't have a qualifying round to make up the numbers? The way forward would be to have one more non league team in that round regardless you'd think anyway even if it doesn't impact Notts. Just goes to show the wider impact clubs have

[Bohinen]

It's said to see Bury expelled from the league, and yes, it could have been us. But it wasn't, and one of the reasons is our unique history. People always say that counts for nothing, but yet another buyer of our club has quoted it as one of the reasons for buying us. Bury had history, although they weren't founder members, but only one club can be the oldest.

Now, if Bolton get expelled, and they were founder members, people will sit up and take notice, even the dribbling fools at the FA who are old enough to rmember when Bolton were good.

[upthemaggies]

It's said to see Bury expelled from the league, and yes, it could have been us. But it wasn't, and one of the reasons is our unique history. People always say that counts for nothing, but yet another buyer of our club has quoted it as one of the reasons for buying us. Bury had history, although they weren't founder members, but only one club can be the oldest.

Bury are/were a small club as league outfits go and have been a poorly supported club for some time, they only scraped past the 4k mark last season despite being promoted, that's less than half of what the other two auto promoted sides (Lincoln and MK) averaged.

And yet, up until the 1970s, they'd only ever spent 5 seasons out of the top 2 tiers, so this probably feels more of a shock to older football fans than the majority of us who see Bury as no bigger than a Colchester, Crewe or Rochdale (and barely bigger than the likes of Darlington, Aldershot, Chester and Hereford). I'm guessing the success of the Manchester clubs, just as television arrived, had a big impact on their ability to maintain a healthy support base and compete in the upper levels.

The 12 point deduction couldn't have helped to convince any potential buyer to take on the debts as you'd be looking at a season where you're probably not going to have anything to realistically play for, gates will be lower than ever and the opportunity for 'new owner bounce' is lost. As a supporter I'd rather take a straight relegation as punishment. Points deductions should be scrapped, it undermines the integrity of the competition, as we saw when Fword got auto promoted despite being the 3rd best club based on results behind Leeds.

[upthemaggies]

It would be easier I agree but it's not out of the question.

On a slightly separate but interesting note. Bury have now also been excluded from the FA Cup and the FA are having discussions going forward as to how that impacts the first round proper.

It may seem crass, but one thing that spring to mind was as the highest placed relegated team, we might get a bye or taken straight into the first round proper so we don't have a qualifying round to make up the numbers? The way forward would be to have one more non league team in that round regardless you'd think anyway even if it doesn't impact Notts. Just goes to show the wider impact clubs have

I think there are a few examples of 3rd tier clubs who'd just been relegated from the 2nd tier getting byes into the 3rd round of the FA Cup or 2nd round of the League Cup because, for whatever reason, they were one club short of the regular number. So it will be a strong possibility that we will go straight into Round 1. The only alternative is for somebody to be given a bye in the draw itself (last ball out).

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Did they?

Back when Scardino needed a guarantor (not the money) for the 2mil loan he agreed to buy the club the city council said it “wasn’t willing to risk taxpayers money”, just a few years after lending our (not in the city area) red neighbours over 5 times that (which the defaulted on payment of a number of times) to improve their stadium.

They then charged the HG trust the full amount payable on the lease for the ground despite knowing it was for the survival of the club.

In more recent timed they have done NOTHING to help or assist in our recent crisis. Where even local MP’s have been involved.

The council would rather see us gone so they can redevelop the area, so thank god for the HG trust.

Disagree with that. If they wanted us gone, they wouldn't have refused to work with Alex May or any of his group. It was the council that forced Hardy's hand in that, not the fact he was a convicted fraudster

[Chicken Balti Pie]

If Bury had have gone bust at the end of last season and their results expunged, would that have made any difference to our relegation???

If it was after the final game but before the end of the playoffs, Notts and Plymouth would have avoided relegation. Had it happened before the end of the season, we would have gone down on goal difference as we'd have lost the point we gained (Yeovil lost both games against Bury) and Yeovil had the better goal difference

[countygump]

Mike Bailey
@MikeBailey1812
1/2.
These are the EfL board that voted unanimously to eject us.
Debbie Jevans CBE
EFL Executive Chair
Simon Bazalgette
Independent Non-Executive Director
Mark Ashton - Championship Director – Bristol City
Stephen Pearce - Championship Director – Derby County


Isn't that Simon Bazalgette related to David Pipe's brother, Dwaine???