Rams v Barnsley.

[macstheman]

What history tells us, with the likes of Stimac, van den Laan and Powell, is the significance of one, classy and well researched, signing!
Jim and Arthur's knowledge of the needs of the football league was the catalyst for those signings. Does Cocu have that knowledge? Can he create a style for the demands of this league and by definition the players needed? It's looking like the answer is no!

[AdiSalisbury]

What history tells us, with the likes of Stimac, van den Laan and Powell, is the significance of one, classy and well researched, signing!
Jim and Arthur's knowledge of the needs of the football league was the catalyst for those signings. Does Cocu have that knowledge? Can he create a style for the demands of this league and by definition the players needed? It's looking like the answer is no!

Yes exactly.

Cocu, I believe, is doing exactly what he was asked to do. Build a young side, with little to no cash, playing european style football. The results haven't matched expectations, but the performances, as MA has often pointed out, reflect the style that Cocu has always had. Difference is, we're not in one of the european leagues where other teams play the same way, and we don't have the talent in our team that teams like Man City do, where it would probably come off.

This is Mel's planning and decision making, again, and needs to take the blame.

[macstheman]

To Swale and rA.
May I respectfully suggest that, as you appear to have a personal disagreement, you give consideration to others on this forum and resolve your issues by PM.

Many thanks in anticipation.

[ramAnag]

To Swale and rA.
May I respectfully suggest that, as you appear to have a personal disagreement, you give consideration to others on this forum and resolve your issues by PM.

Many thanks in anticipation.

Sorry mac, point taken again. God knows I’m trying to end it but tbh...the last thing I need is Swale invading my message box so...out of ‘consideration to others’, and in an attempt to comply with Andy’s ‘sticky’, I shall not respond further to any more of Swales’ ‘thoughts’ on this subject again.

[swaledale]

Sorry mac, point taken again. God knows I’m trying to end it but tbh...the last thing I need is Swale invading my message box so...out of ‘consideration to others’, and in an attempt to comply with Andy’s ‘sticky’, I shall not respond further to any more of Swales’ ‘thoughts’ on this subject again.

So debates where a poster disagrees with another poster for more than say 2 posts? 3 posts? Are forbidden? Blimey it seems its just a forum for posting ill informed and unsubstantiated opining for which there can be no rebuttal!

Don't worry rA I ahve no intention of bothering to debate with you, you fail to answer a point, come back with a spurious comment and generally have a tantrum should your precious opinion be proven to be inaccurate!

So there we ahve it, a manager who gets promotion in his first or second season and isn't sacked is a a manager who has been "given time" to build a team, which basically applies to all managers then! **** knows what rA would describe a manager who like Clough built a team over 6 or 7 years!

[swaledale]

To Swale and rA.
May I respectfully suggest that, as you appear to have a personal disagreement, you give consideration to others on this forum and resolve your issues by PM.

Many thanks in anticipation.

How hard is it to ignore posts that don't interest you? I mean its not like you HAVE to read whats been posted, just pass over and read what interests you! Jeez a forum on which there is some debate, that can't be good, lets just have threads full of anodyne and spurious comments and opinions then!

[AdiSalisbury]

Swale, open a private window and have a ****, it'll do you good. Don't be too hard on the old chap though.

[macstheman]

Your responses are much appreciated rA and Swale.

[Geoff Parkstone]

So debates where a poster disagrees with another poster for more than say 2 posts? 3 posts? Are forbidden? Blimey it seems its just a forum for posting ill informed and unsubstantiated opining for which there can be no rebuttal!

Don't worry rA I ahve no intention of bothering to debate with you, you fail to answer a point, come back with a spurious comment and generally have a tantrum should your precious opinion be proven to be inaccurate!

So there we ahve it, a manager who gets promotion in his first or second season and isn't sacked is a a manager who has been "given time" to build a team, which basically applies to all managers then! **** knows what rA would describe a manager who like Clough built a team over 6 or 7 years!

Let's close the episode by concluding that, in the Red Baronial sense, Muttley has shot Dick in the back: Dick has retaliated by putting the crimson haybaler into the steep descent and Muttley has fallen out. The vulture squad is down 2 men.

Apologies for mixed HB metaphors

[Geoff Parkstone]

And the difference with Clough is that he spent 6 or 7 years not leaving a legacy having not built a team