What is going on Brothers Reedtz ?

[SwalePie]

The reality that the manager is unable to motivate a team he assembled doesn't say a great deal about a very important part of his role or his ability.

Is that reality or simply an opinion? Hmmm. I think some posters may be thinking that he said he couldn't motivate the team, which he didn't.

[Bridg4d_Pie_]

A feasibility study is an assessment of the practicality of a proposed project or system. It aims to objectively and rationally uncover the strengths and weaknesses. (Wikipedia)
Presumably our owners undertook such a study prior to buying the club and based on that formulated a plan of action for “x” years. Judging by results on the pitch their plan is not working and immediate changes should be made to rectify the situation. For any plan to work one must also have the active and positive co-operation of all individuals and parties involved. This is not so in our case on several levels because the fans for example have no say in what is going on, despite being major players in the plan, and are being kept in the dark; no doubt on the basis that the owner’s money does all the talking and we are simply cannon fodder. Summarily, if the owners want to continue to keep us in the dark then as a starter they should not expect us to buy tickets, or pay for streamed matches.
Secondly and this is not a knee jerk reaction – the manager has failed the club. Under any other circumstances he would have been replaced ages ago. Two reasons are being put up for keeping him:-
1) Keeping him on is part of the masterplan; whatever that is.
2) It would be too expensive to fire him.
I would like a statement from the owners telling us precisely what is going on because if it is too expensive to fire him, then he is clearly bigger than the club and when he finally does go he will do so on his terms not caring what subsequently happens to the club.

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[Glad2BeAPie]

Is that reality or simply an opinion? Hmmm. I think some posters may be thinking that he said he couldn't motivate the team, which he didn't.

And he can't

[matt_magpie]

Mansfield (that team that many were saying are bigger than us) were in that league for 5 seasons. So when we get out in less, surely that seals it - we are definitely 'bigger' than them.

'An indifferent start to the 2012–13 season left Mansfield lingering around mid-table, with some fans calling for the manager's head.'

Just change it to 2020-21 and it could be us. Having said that, they did win 20 of their last 24 games to get promotion.

Luton 5 years too, fact is getting promoted out of any league is difficult and a lot of things need to go your way, being a well backed club isn't everything. I think and I might be wrong only Orient have bounced straight back from this league in recent times.

The good thing now is the club appears to be financially stable with competent owners and CEO. I'm still on Ardleys side purely from the point of view I think he did a great job at Wimbledon and last season he definitely did very well considering pre-season.
On paper he's had one very bad season out of 8, with the start at Wimbledon and our relegation which tells me at the very least he isn't a bad manager. But if we're not improving in the next 6-8 games then it may need addressing but there's absolutely no point unless there is someone that appears to be an outstanding candidate as it will make absolutely no impact.

[SwalePie]

And he can't

Perhaps, but that is a different argument

[Davy500]

Luton 5 years too, fact is getting promoted out of any league is difficult and a lot of things need to go your way, being a well backed club isn't everything. I think and I might be wrong only Orient have bounced straight back from this league in recent times.

The good thing now is the club appears to be financially stable with competent owners and CEO. I'm still on Ardleys side purely from the point of view I think he did a great job at Wimbledon and last season he definitely did very well considering pre-season.
On paper he's had one very bad season out of 8, with the start at Wimbledon and our relegation which tells me at the very least he isn't a bad manager. But if we're not improving in the next 6-8 games then it may need addressing but there's absolutely no point unless there is someone that appears to be an outstanding candidate as it will make absolutely no impact.

What absolute rubbish
I say he has one good season out of 8 .I couldnt give a toss about what Ardley did years earlier at wimbledon( if we appointed him then maybe) , its what he had done in his later time at wimbledon, and at Notts that concerns me
Chasing down the leaders last year, what tosh, 7 points behind , and played a game more, and the problem of also Harragate above us
I knew some supporters would use this Covid as an excuse for Notts poor performances, aginst frankly poor sides near the bottom- again nonsense, its Ardleys continued poor tactics , and a crap defense letting us down

What you all got say about the target you were all setting 20 points from the first 10 games? I told you Ardley would never get that many. So what you gota say- surprise me - give him more time bla bla

[matt_magpie]

What absolute rubbish
I say he has one good season out of 8 .I couldnt give a toss about what Ardley did years earlier at wimbledon( if we appointed him then maybe) , its what he had done in his later time at wimbledon, and at Notts that concerns me
Chasing down the leaders last year, what tosh, 7 points behind , and played a game more, and the problem of also Harragate above us
I knew some supporters would use this Covid as an excuse for Notts poor performances, aginst frankly poor sides near the bottom- again nonsense, its Ardleys continued poor tactics , and a crap defense letting us down

What you all got say about the target you were all setting 20 points from the first 10 games? I told you Ardley would never get that many. So what you gota say- surprise me - give him more time bla bla

"I couldnt give a toss about what Ardley did years earlier at wimbledon( if we appointed him then maybe)" so your saying he was a good manager but not now?

Its just 7 games of an interrupted season, we've seen some brilliant football and some absolute tosh admittedly but just 7 games.

Barrow had 7 points from their first 7 games last season, where did they finish again?

[Glad2BeAPie]

Barrow had 7 points from their first 7 games last season, where did they finish again?

They steamrolled over teams, playing high pressing football with pace and power, can you see us playing like that.

[laddo]

I can help out here.

They finished top.

And no I can't.

[slack_pie]

I seem to remember one of the Reedtz brothers saying that their aim or strategy was to increase our chances of promotion each season. So I assume in their eyes, Ardley must do better than he did last year, otherwise he's failing to deliver what they expect and plan for. After only seven games played, it's impossible to say whether or not he'll do better this season than last, but early signs suggest it won't be easy.

If Ardley fails to go one better - and by that I mean either getting us promoted or finishing 2nd - he will have been responsible for consecutive seasons of our worst finish ever. Granted, the second season was a given (even finishing 1st would have been our worst finish ever), but this third season is pivotal. Surely this has to be season we turn the corner. If not now, then when?

As someone else pointed out earlier in the thread, no matter how far we drop, we still struggle to take the game to teams. Just how far do we have to drop until we can approach a game - any game - as favourites and go out and attack them with that mindset? How far would we have to drop before we stopped 'respecting the point'?

I want to see us attacking teams, home and away, with the aim to win every game we play. I don't mean insane gung-ho attacking like under Moniz, but a genuine intent to get the ball forward and put teams under pressure, home and away, first half and second, from the very first minute.

As for demanding our owners come out and make a statement - that's ridiculous. Let them get on with it in the sensible, calm, quiet way they've managed things so far. We just have to trust that when the times comes, they'll make the right decision. I think they've more than earnt our trust so far.