O/T Covid jabs

[ragingpup]

Its a shortage of supply from Pfizer and why we delaying giving the second dose.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55666399

I'm prob wrong but isn't the reason to delay the Pfizer 2nd jab until week 12 a strategic one from the UK Gov't rather than a supply one. My understanding was that they the gov't think that there will be greater impact to give more people the first jab rather than fewer people both jabs? According to some docs however, there is no evidence that the first jab lasts effectively more than the first 3 weeks (as that wasn't trialled) - they have only trialled it as the 2nd jab coming after 3 weeks for the protection they have quoted. Therefore the danger is that lots of people will be going around feeling safe after the 1st jab for up to 12 weeks whilst in actuality being potentially vulnerable (and of course, with their confidence raised, more prone to taking risks and spreading the virus).

Not sure if my understanding is right there. Happy to be corrected! Hope all here are well

[WanChaiMiller]

I'm prob wrong but isn't the reason to delay the Pfizer 2nd jab until week 12 a strategic one from the UK Gov't rather than a supply one. My understanding was that they the gov't think that there will be greater impact to give more people the first jab rather than fewer people both jabs?
Not sure if my understanding is right there. Happy to be corrected! Hope all here are well

Shortage of supply led them to have to make that choice. The thinking by the Gov was if we used what we had to do as many first jabs as possible it would reduce death rates in the 4 vulnerable groups and buy time to bring supply on stream.

From a newspaper report yesterday "The JCVI has suggested doses should be given 12 weeks apart in order to give the maximum number of people some protection while supplies are limited."

[wrinkly]

A question that nobody seems to ask. When the 2nd shots get into full flow will that effectively stop first vaccination for those left?
Put simply. - assume 2.5m available vaccines a week. After 12 weeks 30m will have been vaccinated once. 2.5m shots per week will be needed for the following 12 weeks just to give 2nd shots to the initial 30m leaving no capacity for any new first vaccinations and, more or less, a 3 month gap in first vaccinations.
Am I missing something?

[avondalemiller]

Am I missing something?

Yeah, your jab.....

[Brin]

Having mine this Thursday 10.26am 28/01/21.Rawmarsh.

Didn’t know you were over 80 pal ....😉

[WanChaiMiller]

A question that nobody seems to ask. When the 2nd shots get into full flow will that effectively stop first vaccination for those left?
Put simply. - assume 2.5m available vaccines a week. After 12 weeks 30m will have been vaccinated once. 2.5m shots per week will be needed for the following 12 weeks just to give 2nd shots to the initial 30m leaving no capacity for any new first vaccinations and, more or less, a 3 month gap in first vaccinations.
Am I missing something?

My guess is that it will be easier to scale up vaccinations than scale up supply. It will depend on whether we are at full capacity in the vaccination centres.

[Lolmorgan]

Didn’t know you were over 80 pal ....😉

Feel it & look it these last few months you cheeky 2Hat.

[Ericsladkilnhurst]

Talking to a mate of mine just now, his brother & sister-in-law live in Doncaster, both in their 80's, they have been notified & given appointments for the covid vaccine jab.
Mates brother given his appointment to go to York next week for his jab, his wife given her appointment for this Saturday, to go to the Sheffield Arena for her vaccine jab.
Totally stupid having different days, but worse the distance having to travel.

[Ericsladkilnhurst]

Talking to a mate of mine just now, his brother & sister-in-law live in Doncaster, both in their 80's, they have been notified & given appointments for the covid vaccine jab.
Mates brother given his appointment to go to York next week for his jab, his wife given her appointment for this Saturday, to go to the Sheffield Arena for her vaccine jab.
Totally stupid having different days, but worse the distance having to travel.

Just had a phone call from my mate ( as above ), his sister-in-law had her vaccine jab at the Sheffield arena, his brother had a text message cancelling his York appointment, & sent him to Adwick-Le-Street, not far from his home in Doncaster.

Also my mate aged 69 ( 2 weeks younger than me ) contacted for a appointment for his vaccine jab, he lives on the Monkwood estate in Rawmarsh, he could pick between Montgomery Hall at Wath, Rawmarsh Health centre on Barbara's Avenue, or a place in Rotherham.
He selected Rawmarsh, appointment on Tuesday 2nd Feb, at 9am.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

I see the EU are showing their true colours