O/T:- Ukraine [Incorporating 'Congrats to Russia' thread]

[upthemaggies]

[Mark_Ross]

I was also thinking along those lines.

[Elite_Pie]

In which case, btw, will the NL be suspended or abandoned?

Suspended. Boreham Wood will get 50% of the compensation package, the rest will share the other 50%.

Apart from Chesterfield, who will furlough all players, staff, and spectators.

[keldsyke]

A very difficult situation but seeing more of this I feel Putin is now isolating himself even more with remarkably his own people, it seems that the average Russian seems shocked by this, perhaps the end to all this will come from an unlikely source the Russian people themselves?

[TheBlackHorse]

...it's not often that I agree with BFT; but for once, he's right. Decades of feeble appeasement to the corrupt mafia-led Russian dictatorship. There never was a truth more appropriate than 'if you want peace you should be prepared for war.' The lily-livered lefty yoghurt knitters have had their way and look where we are - no self-respecting armed forces worth the name. We teamed up with the self-serving EU who wouldn't say boo to the big ugly Bear on it's doorstep. Germany only looks after Germany and its arrogance that it can deal comfortably with the dictator Putin could well bounce back to hurt them seriously; I really hope so.
If it weren't so serious it would be funny - watching RT (Russia Today) recycling old photographs of damaged buildings holding cards (in this case) with the date 23.02.2022; and parroting Moscow diatribes against the NATO aggressor. As Putin applies his bayonet strategy - keep pushing while the flesh is soft; stop if you hit bone - I really hope we allow a fast track Ukrainian entry into NATO. Bullies don't listen to reason; you have to use blunt instruments to stop them. It's no good pretending that the Russian people will get rid of Putin ... they'll never get to know what's happening.

[irishpete]

...it's not often that I agree with BFT; but for once, he's right. Decades of feeble appeasement to the corrupt mafia-led Russian dictatorship. There never was a truth more appropriate than 'if you want peace you should be prepared for war.' The lily-livered lefty yoghurt knitters have had their way and look where we are - no self-respecting armed forces worth the name. We teamed up with the self-serving EU who wouldn't say boo to the big ugly Bear on it's doorstep. Germany only looks after Germany and its arrogance that it can deal comfortably with the dictator Putin could well bounce back to hurt them seriously; I really hope so.
If it weren't so serious it would be funny - watching RT (Russia Today) recycling old photographs of damaged buildings holding cards (in this case) with the date 23.02.2022; and parroting Moscow diatribes against the NATO aggressor. As Putin applies his bayonet strategy - keep pushing while the flesh is soft; stop if you hit bone - I really hope we allow a fast track Ukrainian entry into NATO. Bullies don't listen to reason; you have to use blunt instruments to stop them. It's no good pretending that the Russian people will get rid of Putin ... they'll never get to know what's happening.

Watching various News feeds today. Intelligence which has been excellent so far, is saying, all is not well in the Putin boardroom. It could lead to his own downfall. All the people interviewed today that know him, say he has become very twisted.

[Mapperleypie]

Germany only looks after Germany and its arrogance that it can deal comfortably with the dictator Putin could well bounce back to hurt them seriously; I really hope so.

An extraordinary odd world-view. Siding with Putin over one of our allies.

[TheBlackHorse]

[QUOTE=Mapperleypie; An extraordinary odd world-view. Siding with Putin over one of our allies.[/QUOTE]

... I thought you were brighter than that Mapp. It appears that the 4th Reich adopted the principle that, just like the Americans, business is more important than politics. They tried to secure special terms for themselves and fell into the simple trap of p u t i n..g nearly all their eggs in one basket. First year economists wouldn't do that! ; such was/is their arrogance. Germany has never been our ally other than on paper. They've even stopped other countries passing on components, manufactured in Germany, which might find their way to Ukraine for fear of upsetting the Russians. They even stopped - well, we decided - not to over fly Germany when delivering arms to Ukraine. Why on earth didn't we just tell them to f off; how were they going to stop us ... fire sausages at us. We just have to play by their rules; pathetic.

[frenchmagpie]

And not all Russians are Putin followers or indeed corrupt!

The ones who operate in the spheres we are concerned with are. The others can barely feed themselves. And anyway if a few get caught in sanctions crossfire so be it. Maybe they will think about opposing Putin.

[i961pie]

Absolutely this. We don't have to set one boot on the ground in Ukraine at this time. Many of those closest to Putin and many other extraordinarily rich Russians that possibly disagree with him but have remained silent so far would soon change their tune if their assets were frozen.

Johnson is more likely to make Putin a lord as opposed to closing the UK bank accounts of his mates. Him and his corrupt Tory/Brexit mates are completely compromised. A truly sad state of affairs.

Your last paragraph looks a bit silly now doesn't it