OT perspective/ Ukraine/Russia

[Trickytreesreds]

A million people now fled the Ukraine. The fastest exodus this century
Every western company/service/ manufacturer, should withdraw from Russia immediately. Nike have just closed all outlets.
The Russian people have to know what the world thinks.

[MadAmster]

Ikea pulling out as well. If only Putin's dad had...........

[Trickytreesreds]

Ikea pulling out as well. If only Putin's dad had...........

It needs to become a Pariah state like North Korea.
Merkel is looking a real **** now.

[swaledale]

Moscow seeks nothing less than a reversal of the momentous historical processes begun in 1989, when Central and Eastern Europeans peacefully reclaimed their freedom after decades of Russian-imposed tyranny. For President Vladimir Putin, who witnessed the downfall of Russia’s empire as a KGB officer stationed in East Germany, and for whom the Soviet Union’s collapse was “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,” this revulsion for everything that 1989 represents is deeply felt. Putin is implacably hostile to the United States, blaming it for bringing down the Soviet empire and humiliating Russia. Because the European Union and NATO – both of which have welcomed countries once dominated by Russia – serve as obstacles to the reassertion of Russian hegemony, Moscow’s long-term strategy is to undermine and ultimately break these institutions from within, thereby neutralizing the concert of nations that has traditionally been necessary to restrain Russian expansion on the Continent.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Moscow seeks nothing less than a reversal of the momentous historical processes begun in 1989, when Central and Eastern Europeans peacefully reclaimed their freedom after decades of Russian-imposed tyranny. For President Vladimir Putin, who witnessed the downfall of Russia’s empire as a KGB officer stationed in East Germany, and for whom the Soviet Union’s collapse was “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,” this revulsion for everything that 1989 represents is deeply felt. Putin is implacably hostile to the United States, blaming it for bringing down the Soviet empire and humiliating Russia. Because the European Union and NATO – both of which have welcomed countries once dominated by Russia – serve as obstacles to the reassertion of Russian hegemony, Moscow’s long-term strategy is to undermine and ultimately break these institutions from within, thereby neutralizing the concert of nations that has traditionally been necessary to restrain Russian expansion on the Continent.

This unattributed cut and pasting as if poster's original thought is rather pathetic....politico.eu from March 2017!

https://www.politico.eu/article/russ...-trump-europe/

[swaledale]

This unattributed cut and pasting as if poster's original thought is rather pathetic....politico.eu from March 2017!

https://www.politico.eu/article/russ...-trump-europe/

Pot calling kettle black from a pair of ignorant ****ers who add nothing to a debate, whoa re devoid of thoughts

[Andy_Faber]

This unattributed cut and pasting as if poster's original thought is rather pathetic....politico.eu from March 2017!

https://www.politico.eu/article/russ...-trump-europe/

Rumbled

[swaledale]

No whats absolutely pathetic is nit picking, sniping and negative posts from a pair of ignorant ****ers who add nothing to a debate. But then your pursuing of an agenda which can only be described as children's internet supremacy for ****s with nothing better to do is so obvious that its rather amusing!

Now an intelligent human being might have responded to the point made and perhaps mentioned providing a link, but no you pair of ****ed jerks made the mistake of thinking I think and act like yourselves - this is a ****ing internet forum FFS! With very few posters, I have places where people may have differing opinions but are able to debate intelligently and at least aren't falsely claiming to have Ukrainian links which frankly really is pathetic!

[Trickytreesreds]

Such anger.

[StensonRam]

Are you suggesting I was making stuff up when I said my father was Ukrainian, why for sympathy or something? His name was Aleksander Pirozek, he didn't talk much about the war much other than tell me that he twice escaped from a Russian POW camp because he refused to fight for the Russians, he always used to say one day when your old enough I'll tell you all about it, funny because he was still saying that when I was 30 years old when he passed away. The only other thing he told me was he had a brother Anton who lived in Pennsylvania, thats all i knew from his side, mum's maiden name was Franziska Zofia Bienkowska who when was a young girl during the war was dragged out into the street along with her mum, dad, gran and others and lined up to be shot by the nazis when they came searching for a young Jewish boy who they did actually hide in a disused well, the nazis never did find the boy which in turn allowed me and my brother and sister to be born, I however was born in Derby 1970 on Grey St about halfway up on the right

Please don't Swale