📝 New Manager [Luke Williams Appointed]

[upthemaggies]

I'd be more shocked than I was when Steve Thompson returned if it was Nolan, given how these owners operate.

I could be easily persuaded that Nolan would do well at this level with the additional experience he's had at West Ham, but can't see it happening.

[matt_magpie]

The Trust would have got government support to make it through lockdown measures like everybody else.
List the clubs whose owners didn't get them through that period. This is not something we need to be thanking the owners for.

If the Trust had taken over post Munto and Hardy, rather than Scardino and administration. then they would have had better crowds than they did to fall back on. This is not to say I thought the Trust was a good thing, it wasn't, hence the comparison with the current regime. Being sustainable is a euphemism for owners not willing or not being able to put much of their own money in.

We got short changed on the government support as the model was totally flawed and the owners picked up the tab as they also saved us from going bust, so I am happy to thank them for that alone. We haven’t got a squad on peanuts here, we signed Matty Palmer from L1, we have some players I expect on very decent wages. They’ve literally put millions in, we’ve seen the books, sustainable in football terms means live somewhere near your means, haven’t we learnt anything the last 25 odd years? We have a club that can generate decent crowd income and with sensible investment and leadership should lead to success, but it takes time and hopefully they get it right.

[ncfcog]

There is no one lined up yet. Funnily enough we are currently being commissioned (Analysts Bar) by a football management company to produce a manager profiling model and report for the lower leagues so seen lots of interesting options. Also, there are a number of overseas managers who are 'ex-pats' that might fit the bill. Unfortunately we can't share any of our work or findings until it's been published.

[nw6pie]

There is no one lined up yet. Funnily enough we are currently being commissioned (Analysts Bar) by a football management company to produce a manager profiling model and report for the lower leagues so seen lots of interesting options. Also, there are a number of overseas managers who are 'ex-pats' that might fit the bill. Unfortunately we can't share any of our work or findings until it's been published.

Interesting. General question: would you say there’s an obvious grooming ground for new managers - or head coaches, to be more accurate? Is it “the PE teacher” type - as dismissively described here and on Twitter - where it’s coaches who’ve studied the game but never played at a high level, and are working in academies/under 23s?

We seem to be long past the stage where old players were the first names to be bandied about by fans whenever a new manager was required.

[pravda_plc]

Interesting. General question: would you say there’s an obvious grooming ground for new managers - or head coaches, to be more accurate? Is it “the PE teacher” type - as dismissively described here and on Twitter - where it’s coaches who’ve studied the game but never played at a high level, and are working in academies/under 23s?

We seem to be long past the stage where old players were the first names to be bandied about by fans whenever a new manager was required.

I'm astonished that some Notts fans wanted to put IB down because he was QUOTE: a "P.E. TEACHER TYPE MANAGER".

Did those same Notts fans think that Neil Warnock was a born loser because he had been a chiropodist, ar that Nigel Adkins was a born loser because he had been a dentist.

Somebody's previous occupation has absolutley no relevance on how they perform as a football coach / manager. Case in point, most fans would say that Bobby Charlton was a damn good footballer but he was an absolute no-hoper as a manager, lasting just the one season at Preston North End...

[nw6pie]

I'm astonished that some Notts fans wanted to put IB down because he was QUOTE: a "P.E. TEACHER TYPE MANAGER".

Did those same Notts fans think that Neil Warnock was a born loser because he had been a chiropodist, ar that Nigel Adkins was a born loser because he had been a dentist.

Somebody's previous occupation has absolutley no relevance on how they perform as a football coach / manager. Case in point, most fans would say that Bobby Charlton was a damn good footballer but he was an absolute no-hoper as a manager, lasting just the one season at Preston North End...

We also had a genuine former P.E. teacher as manager who did alright for a while in the early 90s.

You've only got to look over the river - don't stare directly, of course, otherwise you'll go blind - to see the difference between the "old school" manager and the new head coach approach. Agent Hughton was taking Forest into League 1, as per the brief. Steve Cooper might be taking them into ... actually, I feel too sick to finish that sentence.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Big Sol

Well he was a better manager than Ardley!!!

[maddogslater]

We've basically got the Trust model, but with fans not having any say.
To be fair, the Trust probably would have done half decent in tier 4 on crowds of 6.8k.

The trust model without the ground falling apart

[Warnocks Legends]

I would absolutely like a Sean Dytch type character bringing steal to our midfield, nous to our defence but with some flair going forward.

[Carlton_Pie]

I would absolutely like a Sean Dytch type character bringing steal to our midfield, nous to our defence but with some flair going forward.

That's one hell of a player you want us to sign!