Do The Owners Ambitions Match The Supporters'?

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Off course the owners have ambition this is why they invest millions a season keeping the club alive.
Now if fans want us to go out and spend 300k on a player or 2 then No they dont match the ambitions of those supporters.In reality though how many Notts fans think we can afford that route?
Stability and promotion via good management and coaching rather than boom and bust for me please..
BUILD BACK BETTER !!...to quote a lying tyrant..

[Old_pie]

They weren't impressed when i sat behind them....

Presumably you couldn't see their faces so what were they saying?

It did occur to me this morning that maybe the reason Burchnall left when the opportunity arose was because he realised that the club was not going to meet his ambitions with the limitations the Bros imposed.

[laddo]

They weren't impressed when i sat behind them....

Well that doesn't answer the question at all lol. I'm reassured they weren't impressed, would be bizarre if they were.

[SwalePie]

Off course the owners have ambition this is why they invest millions a season keeping the club alive.
Now if fans want us to go out and spend 300k on a player or 2 then No they dont match the ambitions of those supporters.In reality though how many Notts fans think we can afford that route?
Stability and promotion via good management and coaching rather than boom and bust for me please..
BUILD BACK BETTER !!...to quote a lying tyrant..

What he said! ^

[crazyfists]

But in a league where only one goes up automatically, it almost doesn’t matter how much you spend, there’s a very good chance that your season is going to come down to two or three play-off matches. Look at Wrexham.

This is the issue for me, if we had another promotion spot then we might have gone up by now. It's very frustrating that some owners in this league probably run their clubs better, spend more and have a bigger fan base than clubs in the league above. Obviously you're in the league you deserve but when the league above is more of a closed shop than all the EFL then it skews perceptions of a successful season. Whether it's becoming league 3 or getting other promotion spot, something needs to happen.

[Notts78]

This is the issue for me, if we had another promotion spot then we might have gone up by now. It's very frustrating that some owners in this league probably run their clubs better, spend more and have a bigger fan base than clubs in the league above. Obviously you're in the league you deserve but when the league above is more of a closed shop than all the EFL then it skews perceptions of a successful season. Whether it's becoming league 3 or getting other promotion spot, something needs to happen.

We would have been relegated earlier if there was an extra team dropping out earlier. We have only been ran well for a little under 3 years and got what we deserved in the end.
People moan about it being difficult to get promoted from the NL due to only 2 teams, yet there are 7 finishing positions that give you a chance. In League 2 only the bottom 2 positions get relegated, so in theory it should have been harder to get relegated, yet we achieved that.

[laddo]

Excellent posts from Pedro and 78.

It's easy to make demands and gamble with other people's money. Not so easy when it's you paying the bills.

[Elite_Pie]

We would have been relegated earlier if there was an extra team dropping out earlier.

I don't think we would, before relegation our lowest position was 21st, still leaving us safe.

[upthemaggies]

One auto promotion spot is very difficult to achieve but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be challenging for it and Notts haven't done that at any point since being relegated despite being the best supported club in the league (or maybe 2nd this?).

For that reason I don't think we are a well run club and I'm expecting that to become more and more apparent as time goes on.

So long as they hang on, the owners could prove the doubters wrong, I hope they do, but we could have said that about Trew as he made his last throw of the dice with sheridan or Hardy with Ardley.

I've been at least thinking these owners aren't all people seem to think they are since they decided to stick with Ardley post Harrogate. No new owner with any real ambition would persist with a manager employed by the former owner that's got them relegated any longer than absolutely necessary.
They set their stall out with that decision and their record so far speaks for itself.

They won't be around for ever and tragically, what comes next may well turn out to be even worse. Something very drastic is going to have to happen at some point if Notts are ever gong to to turn things around. By that I mean more than just becoming a yo-yo club between tiers 4 and 5.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

Off course the owners have ambition this is why they invest millions a season keeping the club alive.
Now if fans want us to go out and spend 300k on a player or 2 then No they dont match the ambitions of those supporters.In reality though how many Notts fans think we can afford that route?
Stability and promotion via good management and coaching rather than boom and bust for me please..
BUILD BACK BETTER !!...to quote a lying tyrant..

I completely agree. One fans stability is another fans cheap option. One fans patience is another fans content with NL level.

I don't for one moment think that our owners are happy for us to stay at NL level. Genuine owners will want what is best for the club and will want to be successful and play at the highest level possible.

The problem is that this league is the toughest of all the professional leagues to get out of. Firstly if you finish 4th, 5th, 6th (or 7th in LG2) you are in the play-off semi final. Not at this level you finish in any of those places and you have an extra playoff game. If you finish 2nd (or 3rd in LG2) in any of the other leagues you get automatic promotion. Not at this level it's semi-final play-offs at best.

There needs to be a reality check here. Money talks but does not guarantee promotion. Likewise I can't fault the owners one bit for running this club sensibly and not recklessly. It's too bad if some fans don't like that the club are not spending £250,000 - £300,000 on one player such as a Paddy Madden or Ollie Palmer. Likewise when the likes of Wrexham are paying £3-4K a week on a number of players wages that is more than the average League One team how is that sustainable? It's not.

This morning Wrexham woke up knowing they are in this league for at least another year yet look who they brought in; Paul Mullin, James Jones, Ben Tozer, Aaron Hayden and Ollie Palmer.

They have paid all that money on signing fees and wages for those players this season yet in the league they only won two more games than us, scored ten goals more than us and conceded six less goals than us, and start the season in August in the same league as us.

Which club got has got better value for money this season based on money spent? Us.