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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    How many times do you need told? A vaccine doesn't stop anyone catching a virus, it simply mitigates the effects that virus might have on the vaccinated individual and, hopefully, prevents the virus multiplying and passing on from the infected individual to others.

    I wouldn't worry about being over 75 in Scotland and not getting the vaccine. I don't really think it has much effect and verges on a placebo intended to placate the masses and is an attempt to justify the initial massive over reaction to the 'pandemic'. I have no proof of this and haven't conducted any research to prove it, however my tin foil hat has been off for some time.
    What’s the point of wasting billions of ponds giving people Covid vaccinations if they do not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    No those screaming for lockdown did.

    The "science", the BBC, sky, Preston, the Welsh dick, sturgeon, knee taking sir dick, the blessed NHS, the civil service, teachers, cooooncils, Dr Hilary, Lorraine the **** Kelly, dab mad and every other **** that was wrong aboot COVID.

    It was predicted, they have got it

    Qué ****ing Sara.
    You mean the Tory government were listening to the fowk on daytime tv.
    Oyf
    Shuda just stuck to singing happy birthday when washing our hands like Boris recommended.
    ****ing muppet

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric_sinclair View Post
    You mean the Tory government were listening to the fowk on daytime tv.
    Oyf
    Shuda just stuck to singing happy birthday when washing our hands like Boris recommended.
    ****ing muppet
    I think the gist of what RRoS is saying is that they were listening to the scientists and the NHS. Scientists were saying potentially, potentially, worst case scenario, if ths happens etc. without actually saying that in fact it could be that a tiny fraction of their predicted effects was just as likely. The NHS jerked their knees and said if that happens they'll be swamped and won't cope. Reality was the scientists over estimated the severity, the NHS was never any more stressed than it already was (probably less) and nurses and doctors spent their days dancing on Tik Tok videos. Meanwhile people died because they were afraid to go to doctors and / or hospitals because they might just cause the NHS more stress (Might have reduced the number of Tik Tok videos they could make right enough), cancer and other life threatening conditions went undiagnosed and NHS waiting lists were simply suspended resulting in them now being years long in many instances.

    The media also listened to scientists and the NHS and embarked on a project fear that had people believing if they stepped outside their houses they would be attacked by clouds of virus intent on killing them - caused of course by them thinking movies like I Am Legend were real life stories rather than total fantasy.

    Government had no choice in the end but to cave in to the pressure they were being pout under. I agree with very few Tory policies but Boris got it right from the start and should have gone with his herd immunity plan.

    A certain pair on here were telling people from the start that we were being taken for a ride, that pair were called for all sorts by people who seemingly knew better and who obviously were happy to be controlled. That pair were of course absolutely correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    I think the gist of what RRoS is saying is that they were listening to the scientists and the NHS. Scientists were saying potentially, potentially, worst case scenario, if ths happens etc. without actually saying that in fact it could be that a tiny fraction of their predicted effects was just as likely. The NHS jerked their knees and said if that happens they'll be swamped and won't cope. Reality was the scientists over estimated the severity, the NHS was never any more stressed than it already was (probably less) and nurses and doctors spent their days dancing on Tik Tok videos. Meanwhile people died because they were afraid to go to doctors and / or hospitals because they might just cause the NHS more stress (Might have reduced the number of Tik Tok videos they could make right enough), cancer and other life threatening conditions went undiagnosed and NHS waiting lists were simply suspended resulting in them now being years long in many instances.

    The media also listened to scientists and the NHS and embarked on a project fear that had people believing if they stepped outside their houses they would be attacked by clouds of virus intent on killing them - caused of course by them thinking movies like I Am Legend were real life stories rather than total fantasy.

    Government had no choice in the end but to cave in to the pressure they were being pout under. I agree with very few Tory policies but Boris got it right from the start and should have gone with his herd immunity plan.

    A certain pair on here were telling people from the start that we were being taken for a ride, that pair were called for all sorts by people who seemingly knew better and who obviously were happy to be controlled. That pair were of course absolutely correct.
    He maybe should have asked different advisors,Neil Ferguson track record wasna the best.
    Only come on here periodically so can't comment.
    I do remember like most forums there were plenty "expert" on here but in truth nobody knows what went on they only have an opinion.

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    Here's another £5 million saved that could pay a few Jakebombs leccy bills this Winter.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...lands-62603804

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AuldYin View Post
    Here's another £5 million saved that could pay a few Jakebombs leccy bills this Winter.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...lands-62603804
    Hmmm, the islands are depopulating but some people complain on and on and on and on about lack of investment in ferries. Won't be long before we don't need as many ferries so why invest in them?

    Let them row is my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Hmmm, the islands are depopulating but some people complain on and on and on and on about lack of investment in ferries. Won't be long before we don't need as many ferries so why invest in them?

    Let them row is my opinion.
    They should be giving them 50k each to move to the mainland and live amongst normal people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AuldYin View Post
    Here's another £5 million saved that could pay a few Jakebombs leccy bills this Winter.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...lands-62603804
    This scheme would never have worked.
    Local residents on the Scottish islands have a complete distrust of anyone moving to live or work on their island even if they are an asset to the place.
    A former member of Islay GC who was a secondary school teacher moved to Islay to be a teacher at Islay High School.
    He told me that one evening he was out for a drink. The parent of one of his pupils came over to him and complained about people moving to Islay to be a teacher at Islay HS.
    My friend told this local resident that if teachers did not move to work on Islay the local residents would all be sheep shaggers.
    It is a well known fact on Islay that Islay High School would not exist if teachers from the Mainland did not move their to take up teaching posts.
    Most of the Scottish islands do not have decent full time jobs for young people.
    Even with 9 whisky distilleries on Islay working full time a lot of the jobs in these distilleries are seasonal with people working in the whisky distillery’s visitor centre from Easter until the middle of October every year.
    It is the same in the tourist industry on all the Scottish islands with people being employed for seasonal work with a short increase in work over the New Year period when the Calmac ferries are packed out running one way. Busy with people coming to Islay for the New Year and then busy with people returning back to the Mainland from 2nd January onwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    This scheme would never have worked.
    Local residents on the Scottish islands have a complete distrust of anyone moving to live or work on their island even if they are an asset to the place.
    A former member of Islay GC who was a secondary school teacher moved to Islay to be a teacher at Islay High School.
    He told me that one evening he was out for a drink. The parent of one of his pupils came over to him and complained about people moving to Islay to be a teacher at Islay HS.
    My friend told this local resident that if teachers did not move to work on Islay the local residents would all be sheep shaggers.
    It is a well known fact on Islay that Islay High School would not exist if teachers from the Mainland did not move their to take up teaching posts.
    Most of the Scottish islands do not have decent full time jobs for young people.
    Even with 9 whisky distilleries on Islay working full time a lot of the jobs in these distilleries are seasonal with people working in the whisky distillery’s visitor centre from Easter until the middle of October every year.
    It is the same in the tourist industry on all the Scottish islands with people being employed for seasonal work with a short increase in work over the New Year period when the Calmac ferries are packed out running one way. Busy with people coming to Islay for the New Year and then busy with people returning back to the Mainland from 2nd January onwards.
    Why don't the youngsters on Islay train to be teachers? Voila, teacher crisis resolved, school stays open and an element of the refusal of locals to welcome incomers disappears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deeranged View Post
    Why don't the youngsters on Islay train to be teachers? Voila, teacher crisis resolved, school stays open and an element of the refusal of locals to welcome incomers disappears.
    That would seem the obvious solution.
    However you have to remember that living on Scottish island is like living in a goldfish bowl.
    I was once at a quiz night on a Saturday evening in the lounge bar of the White Hart Hotel in Port Ellen where there were a couple of teams of Islay Hig School teachers taking part.
    At one point some of their Islay High School pupils passed the hotel and noticed their teachers sitting in the lounge bar.
    They started shouting at them from the street outside.
    These teachers could not get away from their pupils at the weekend whereas Dundee this is less likely to happen.

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