Try again- the final games and who has who.

[norfolk white]

Spot on, although you may as well say Leeds down and leave it at that.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

We deserve to go down - lack of passion and fight to survive.

Interesting comments from Ayling suggesting they have lost all the fitness they had under Bielsa and that they struggle in the second half.

Looks like our training regime has become a lot less harsh

[CalverleyBoy]

You didn't need Ayling to tell you that it has been apparent for a several months now - that and a weak bench has seen us been turned over - we were ok for thirty minutes yesterday

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Looks like Garcia’s record in charge will overall be better than Big Sam’s

[joellufcprice]

Looks like Garcia’s record in charge will overall be better than Big Sam’s

Big Sam was never the right call but it was hard to justify keep Gracia considering how easily we were getting beaten. Marsch was the big problem, he managed to coach any desire, fitness and talent out of a squad that once was full of it. Recruitment shockingly poor as well, fact is they don't deserve to be in the PL

[UbiqueLUFC33]

We are dire and don't deserve to stay up. The halcyon days of Bielsa seem like a lifetime ago. How can it be that the same Harrison who terrorised the Liverpool defence in Sep 2020 can now barely complete a pass? We were a team that neutrals loved to watch because we were exciting, adventurous and something different. Now we are mundane, predictable and the epitome of mediocrity. We are Burnley without the flair or Beirut without the charm. We are a pale shadow of our recent past and are badly in need of ruthless surgery throughout the Club.

I despise the Board for their callous ineptitude and their arrogant belief that we were too good to go down. Despite a very clear warning, and lucky escape, last season, they followed the same model of blind belief, fuelled by a heady combination of greed and ignorance. The chickens have very much come home to roost and they are chargrilled and riddled with Asian Bird Flu.

The way that the heart and soul has been ripped out of our Club, both on and off the field, should be used as a case study for future academic courses on sports (mis)management.

[whitestomper45]

Mmmm, so going into the last game... we have a manager that tells whoever wants to hear that the squad isnt good enough and a player who says we are not fit enough... wow what a mess....

[WTF11]

Mmmm, so going into the last game... we have a manager that tells whoever wants to hear that the squad isnt good enough and a player who says we are not fit enough... wow what a mess....

Agreed, and as I said on one of the posts in the "relegation" thread, go back a bit further to the "roasting" of Marsch during the Bamford post-match interview that you and I "discussed". It was clear even before that interview that things weren't right and that what wasn't right wasn't being addressed. There would only be so much inaction and poor decision making that professionals would take before speaking out.

Sam has no reason to be "discrete" and I suspect Luke isn't bothered any more having been part of the team that gained promotion and seen the potential and opportunity for real progress pi55ed away by the three stooges.

[Rev72]

Big Sam was Radz last roll of the dice and was yet another stupid expensive mistake , just how the f*ck do you galvanise a side that's been sh1te for 99.9% of the season with just 4 games to play???

Absolute madness and absolutely clueless, should have just let skubs see the season out and save a few million in the process cos the majority of this shower of sh1t are not fit to wear the shirt.

[joellufcprice]

Seen an interesting argument floating on Twitter that in reality we are actually a second tier side and it is fantasy to think we should be in the top league consistently given our history and percentage of time spent in both divisions.

Hope we get it right next year or we will be adding another 5-10 years minimum in the EFL