Back to the drawing board

[islaydarkblue]

Probably better that you start sitting in your warm house, every Saturday. Might stop you moaning about everything the Club does.

I was an armchair Dundee supporter for 28 years as I played golf at Downfield Golf Club before ‘emigrating’ to live on Islay.
Now I am getting older and it would not be difficult for me to become an armchair supporter again especially as now I do not have to wait for the vidiprinter to get the full time score.

[thegen65]

Unlike you I prefer to look at the big picture and try to see what is best for everyone not just a select group of people.

And what do you see in your big picture Douglas? What do you think is best for everyone?

[BCram]

And what do you see in your big picture Douglas? What do you think is best for everyone?

Hope you don't mind my answer.

I think the big picture is that we have had a succession of owners who have tried to go too quickly. Fan based ownership didn't work for us until Bill Colvin came on board and I think he passed us over to what should have been a safe pair of hands with consideration financial resources. The trouble has been that a very early decision was made to abandon Dens and that is the core of the problem. We are not a strong performing SPFL club with 12-15k supporters so anything we try to do has to be done on a shoestring budget.

For me getting our ground back, as part of DFC is essential. I can't see any picture with us playing in a brand new stadium at Campy. I can see loads of youngsters coming back to support us if they get the sort of encouragement that Bowyer gave them and they have a special space in the South Enclosure.

[islaydarkblue]

And what do you see in your big picture Douglas? What do you think is best for everyone?

I believe that the management of Dundee Football Club should attempt to get as many bums on seats at home games at Dens Park instead of making it difficult for supporters who are not season ticket holders who at present have to queue up twice to get into Dens Park. Once to purchase a ticket and then in a second queue to get into Dens Park.
Although I have never purchased a ticket online I understand that there is a charge in addition to the cost of the match day ticket even for people collecting their ticket from the ticket office.

[islaydarkblue]

Hope you don't mind my answer.

I think the big picture is that we have had a succession of owners who have tried to go too quickly. Fan based ownership didn't work for us until Bill Colvin came on board and I think he passed us over to what should have been a safe pair of hands with consideration financial resources. The trouble has been that a very early decision was made to abandon Dens and that is the core of the problem. We are not a strong performing SPFL club with 12-15k supporters so anything we try to do has to be done on a shoestring budget.

For me getting our ground back, as part of DFC is essential. I can't see any picture with us playing in a brand new stadium at Campy. I can see loads of youngsters coming back to support us if they get the sort of encouragement that Bowyer gave them and they have a special space in the South Enclosure.

Thank you for your answer.
I would also add that everything was going well until Scot Gardiner resigned as the Dundee Football Club Chief Executive and John Nelms took over despite having no previous experience of running a full time professional football (soccer) club in Scotland.
Since then things have gone steadily downhill with Nelms in charge and until he is gone I cannot see things getting better.

[BCram]

Not read many posts about Spoofer saying he did a good job.

[islaydarkblue]

Not read many posts about Spoofer saying he did a good job.

He certainly did a far better job as the Chief Executive than John Nelms has done.

[BP33]

He certainly did a far better job as the Chief Executive than John Nelms has done.

He never put a penny into DFC, unlike Nelms.

[islaydarkblue]

He never put a penny into DFC, unlike Nelms.

Scot Gardiner was employed as Chief Executive of Dundee Football Club.
What funds has John Nelms put in Dundee Football Club.

[BP33]

Scot Gardiner was employed as Chief Executive of Dundee Football Club.
What funds has John Nelms put in Dundee Football Club.

I can guarantee you that Nelms has put money into DFC. Gardiner was fond of speaking to the media, but most of it was ****e, hence the nickname Spoofer.