The next 4 matches

[Davy500]

Bang on, any talk of giving up the kop is insane

Why is insane, tbh do not know why the away supporters were given the JS in 2008, as prior to this was always in the JS as a Notts supporter for many years till this was changed
As for helping Notts, well since 2008 apart from munto season it has not helped much, and in the 80,s and 90,s we were in higher divisions with the away support being in the kop end
Personally i would never give a large amount of away supporters, prime seats along a pitch, but believe its more the team, its players, managers and owners that lead to success , not where away supporters are seated

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Why is insane, tbh do not know why the away supporters were given the JS in 2008, as prior to this was always in the JS as a Notts supporter for many years till this was changed
As for helping Notts, well since 2008 apart from munto season it has not helped much, and in the 80,s and 90,s we were in higher divisions with the away support being in the kop end
Personally i would never give a large amount of away supporters, prime seats along a pitch, but believe its more the team, its players, managers and owners that lead to success , not where away supporters are seated

We got the kop back because away fans bringing a couple hundred sounded like they were in their thousands. This was because few people in a large metallic structure will make it echo. It's the same for the Sirrel now. We need to basically put some muffling where the away fans are to stop the echo, or fill the JS with more people. The reason the Kop doesn't seem that loud to us is because a lot of the noise is basically absorbed by the fleshy bodies in there

[Notts78]

Why is insane, tbh do not know why the away supporters were given the JS in 2008, as prior to this was always in the JS as a Notts supporter for many years till this was changed
As for helping Notts, well since 2008 apart from munto season it has not helped much, and in the 80,s and 90,s we were in higher divisions with the away support being in the kop end
Personally i would never give a large amount of away supporters, prime seats along a pitch, but believe its more the team, its players, managers and owners that lead to success , not where away supporters are seated

I’m confused Davy. You start by saying giving the Kop back to away followings would not in your opinion be insane.. followed by not giving away huge numbers in prime seats (that’s a matter of opinion, I prefer looking down the pitch from goal to goal rather than having the game left to right and vice versa). You then say it’s players, owners and management that lead to success.
So where the away fans sit does and doesn’t make a difference in your opinion. Which is it?
By the way I agree that the number of away fans and where they sit makes no difference to the outcome of a game. I love being in the Kop and if we were to give a stand up behind the goal, then bye bye family stand.
The issue we have at Notts is that a good proportion of fans don’t sing..we seldom have an electric atmosphere. It’s easier for away fans as they are on a day out and many would have had a few liveners.

[Davy500]

I’m confused Davy. You start by saying giving the Kop back to away followings would not in your opinion be insane.. followed by not giving away huge numbers in prime seats (that’s a matter of opinion, I prefer looking down the pitch from goal to goal rather than having the game left to right and vice versa). You then say it’s players, owners and management that lead to success.
So where the away fans sit does and doesn’t make a difference in your opinion. Which is it?
By the way I agree that the number of away fans and where they sit makes no difference to the outcome of a game. I love being in the Kop and if we were to give a stand up behind the goal, then bye bye family stand.
The issue we have at Notts is that a good proportion of fans don’t sing..we seldom have an electric atmosphere. It’s easier for away fans as they are on a day out and many would have had a few liveners.

Thought i had made it perfectly clear
Up till 2008, homw supporters were always in the JS and we played in the 2 top divisions, since 2008 away supporters have been in the JS, well this has not helped Notts as we steadily dropped lower
And finished by saying i believe its the owners, managers and players that make a team good, not where away supporters sit , and for me the switch in 2008 was a waste of time, that has lead to no benefit for Notts

[uysapie]

Happy Friday to you too, obviously in a very cheery mood after the appointment of the new head coach. I think we’ll win one and draw one of the home games and anything we get from the one call is a bonus.

Nowt to do with the head coach. I initially thought we would get only 3 points at Grimsby from this group of 4 games.

[Davy500]

I’m confused Davy. You start by saying giving the Kop back to away followings would not in your opinion be insane.. followed by not giving away huge numbers in prime seats (that’s a matter of opinion, I prefer looking down the pitch from goal to goal rather than having the game left to right and vice versa). You then say it’s players, owners and management that lead to success.
So where the away fans sit does and doesn’t make a difference in your opinion. Which is it?
By the way I agree that the number of away fans and where they sit makes no difference to the outcome of a game. I love being in the Kop and if we were to give a stand up behind the goal, then bye bye family stand.
The issue we have at Notts is that a good proportion of fans don’t sing..we seldom have an electric atmosphere. It’s easier for away fans as they are on a day out and many would have had a few liveners.

Going even further than that leading up to 2008 , Notts were struggling at the wrong end of league 2, the reason the owners, management and players were crap
People then tried to say it was because of the away supporters in the Kop making to much noise and taking over the match atmosphere lol. Other clubs have come out with even more crazy ideas, at Birmingham City, they got the priests in to pray at the ground, as they believed the ground was cursed lol.
And wolves kept losing at home, the matchday mascots were to blame, and the the reason they kept losing and they were sacked lol
Remember if a team keeps losing and is generally dropping lower, its because the owners, managers or players are crap, either one of the afore mentioned or all 3

[Notts78]

Thought i had made it perfectly clear
Up till 2008, homw supporters were always in the JS and we played in the 2 top divisions, since 2008 away supporters have been in the JS, well this has not helped Notts as we steadily dropped lower
And finished by saying i believe its the owners, managers and players that make a team good, not where away supporters sit , and for me the switch in 2008 was a waste of time, that has lead to no benefit for Notts

Maybe there hasn’t been a benefit to Notts on the pitch. However, one thing you haven’t considered and I would say it’s important is the supporter experience. Having a choice of being behind a goal with the more vocal supporters or sat in DP and enjoying a different experience is important. As is how you get to watch the game. As I said previously, I prefer the play going to and from me as opposed to across me (left/right).
As you say where away fans sit has no bearing kn results. However having the choice of how I or any home fan enjoys the experience at the game has definitely impacted attendances. Why was a new expensive sound system important?
As an FYI I spent many a game in Z block but the view was ****.

[Davy500]

Yeah i get that, that some supporters like sitting in Kop, seems to be a good atmosphere in there.
I do not think the Kop has impacted attendces, think that is down to a general rise of football support across the board since covid, and the fact thats Notts have been on the up the last few years

[Old_pie]

That's my feeling too, and more like just the 1 v Grimsby.

They are tough fixtures even when things are going well. Hopefully the players will rally and prove me/us wrong but I fear there will be a bit of shell-shock for a couple of weeks.

Well at the moment we got the point v Grimsby, and to my surprise also v Barrow. Yesterday's loss really wasn't a surprise so the dilemma now is whether to count the postponed Stockport game as the 4th (nil points) or the next match via Gillingham (a first win for SM)? I think to stay with the spirit of the thread it has to be Stockport and we're already double my prediction.

[ajojones]

Jeeze some bats1t comments on this thread.