O/T:- Forest Crying (Again)

[drillerpie]

Well yeah we remember & what goes round comes around...

Regarding these VAR "offside by a millimetre" decisions though, I think the authorities have lost the plot here.
In very tight circumstances (hell they can even put a length on it if they think it really necessary)
the advantage should be with the attacking side.

Offside is a great example of VAR working well MO. It doesn't matter if it's a toenail or 5 yards, if it's off it's off.

[Notts78]

Offside is a great example of VAR working well MO. It doesn't matter if it's a toenail or 5 yards, if it's off it's off.

I agree. It’s fact not opinion. I’ve seen some pretty horrific decisions via VAR when it comes to fouls and sending offs. More often than not the ref gives the right decision and then VAR change his mind - not the replay.
I can’t remember which ref said it, but he said something along the lines of his decisions were sometimes made on instinct, rather than what he could actually see.
VAR is a farce as they say they won’t re-ref a game, yet, that’s exactly what is happening.
Why can’t it be like rugby where the ref asks them to check a situation?
The funniest bit about all of this is that managers, players and clubs moaned about decisions. They begged for VAR. Now they moan about VAR. instead of focussing on their own inadequacies. I didn’t watch it but by all accounts Forest were dog **** yesterday.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

Offside is a great example of VAR working well MO. It doesn't matter if it's a toenail or 5 yards, if it's off it's off.

Its not though is it. There needs to be a daylight rule where it's offside if there is a clear gap between attacker a defender. I will explain why as well! TV cameras record at 25 FPS, you may think that is a lot but it's actually not, because if you're going to measure by the millimetre like they are, you need the EXACT frame the ball was kicked and you can't get that. Have a look next time at the ball, it will more than likely be an oblong shape because it is already in motion. If it's a spherical shape, has it been kicked yet? You can't prove it at 25fps. They either need to build in tolerance ala cricket or extremely high rate FPS cameras just for offside. Easier to make a daylight rule and ease the job of the linesman, speed up VAR as you don't need to be a forensic scientist and also make it more than likely the goal will stand so you don't ruin the joy for fans

[forwardmagpie]

Really? In my opinion tribalism is what makes football. The day I don't enjoy Forest getting the rough end of the stick however unfair is the day I would ask to be voluntarily euthanised.

Looks like Mark Clattenburg is rivalling Harry Arter in the 'value for money' stakes!

^^^^ this

[drillerpie]

Its not though is it. There needs to be a daylight rule where it's offside if there is a clear gap between attacker a defender. I will explain why as well! TV cameras record at 25 FPS, you may think that is a lot but it's actually not, because if you're going to measure by the millimetre like they are, you need the EXACT frame the ball was kicked and you can't get that. Have a look next time at the ball, it will more than likely be an oblong shape because it is already in motion. If it's a spherical shape, has it been kicked yet? You can't prove it at 25fps. They either need to build in tolerance ala cricket or extremely high rate FPS cameras just for offside. Easier to make a daylight rule and ease the job of the linesman, speed up VAR as you don't need to be a forensic scientist and also make it more than likely the goal will stand so you don't ruin the joy for fans

I don't see how the daylight rule would change anything. There would still be marginal decisions where someone is off by 1mm.

[Chicken Balti Pie]

I don't see how the daylight rule would change anything. There would still be marginal decisions where someone is off by 1mm.

Because there is a margin of error, if it's clear the player is ahead, no one is bothered

[Togtastic]

When i take my black & white specs off and watch the 3 decisions against Forest I know they could all have been given and we will see identical situations treated differently before the PL season is finished. The third one as highlighted on MotD2 is criminal from VAR.
Whilst we can chuckle at Forest's discomfort we know only too well how poor the standard of refereeing is in our leagues.

[legs77]

Offside is a great example of VAR working well MO. It doesn't matter if it's a toenail or 5 yards, if it's off it's off.

That isnt always the case though Driller as there is a new rule if the lines overlap that means the attacker in some cases can be very very slightly offside.

That is BS as you say offside is offside or should be.

[matt_magpie]

I hope as a Notts fan I never have to experience watching us with VAR. I obviously want to see us climbing the divisions but when I look at Forest I think would I enjoy being a Forest fan that much at the mo?
The thought regardless of being on the prem of trying to scrap for points every season and when we did score waiting to see if it was going to be allowed just doesn’t seem that appealing.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Offside is a great example of VAR working well MO. It doesn't matter if it's a toenail or 5 yards, if it's off it's off.

With the new technology the offside law needs changing..if anypart of the player is on side then it should be a goal...promoting and rewarding attacking football not rewarding negativity as it does at present.