Cheltenham Town Post Match Thoughts

[Yak]

As poor as it seems at the moment SE still deserves some more time. I said at the beginning of the season that the squad he assembled would need at least until October to look anything like a team, and whilst we have looked OK at times, we also look further from a team than I expected. All managers will cite injuries as an excuse, but we in my opinion have had what I would call some big players out, with Kelly and Ragget initially culminating with McCart and JCH more recently, but we have played well a few times and in my opinion will get better as players come back. Sacking SE won't cure anything, and, for me anyway, every manager should get at least 3 transfer windows before he can say this is his team, and SE knows this league very well. As things stand I can't see us being in the mix come april/may but nor do I see us being in a relegation fight so I am hoping that we can get our big players back and,coupled with a decent January window, hopefully get a couple of decent players in which may just push us on to at least fight for a play off spot. My glass is always half full and I live in hope regardless of what has happened today. UTM

I really can’t agree with that Ronners.
He’s an abject failure, he can’t coach, he takes no responsibility, he’s an horrible representative of our club, he is worse than LR, MT and he’s taking us backwards.
These are his signings and they are poor.
I won’t be going to Barnsley and how I feel right now I’m not sure when I’ll be back.
GET HIM GONE.

[Ronners]

I really can’t agree with that Ronners.
He’s an abject failure, he can’t coach, he takes no responsibility, he’s an horrible representative of our club, he is worse than LR, MT and he’s taking us backwards.
These are his signings and they are poor.
I won’t be going to Barnsley and how I feel right now I’m not sure when I’ll be back.
GET HIM GONE.

Fair enough yak, you're one of the more sensible posters but I'll agree to disagree with you. On the one hand I said every manager should get at least 3 transfer windows, but LR only got one and was certainly not treated fairly. However, we certainly haven't been awful this season although I was expecting better, and also IMO this league seems way worse in quality than it was when we were last in it, but that could just be how I see it. All in all I wouldn't want SE being sacked but I agree with your general analysis that we are very average and even allowing for that we do have a squad that, considering how poor league 1 is, could well get it together for a go at the play offs, but that is my glass half full side speaking. UTM

[Yak]

Fair enough yak, you're one of the more sensible posters but I'll agree to disagree with you. On the one hand I said every manager should get at least 3 transfer windows, but LR only got one and was certainly not treated fairly. However, we certainly haven't been awful this season although I was expecting better, and also IMO this league seems way worse in quality than it was when we were last in it, but that could just be how I see it. All in all I wouldn't want SE being sacked but I agree with your general analysis that we are very average and even allowing for that we do have a squad that, considering how poor league 1 is, could well get it together for a go at the play offs, but that is my glass half full side speaking. UTM

Admire your positivity pal. 👍

[Beaufighter]

Could it be deja vu! Ronnie got sacked after we got well beaten at Chesterfield. Evans at Barnsley?

And we were in the top 6 when Ronnie got the chop.

[Ericsladkilnhurst]

As one of the 2500 Millers who could be bothered to go today I thought that performance was about as bad as it gets but what summed it up was the fat bloke who sat on his fat ar$e for the whole game and did absolutely nothing apart from scuttle down the tunnel at half time and then even quicker at full time.

How the hell can a manager judge how a team is playing or make decisions to change things if he just sits in the dugout because he can't possibly have a decent perspective from there?

I certainly won't be disappointed if Evans goes because he has improved absolutely nothing and arguably has made things worse.
However, the problems at the club run far deeper than whoever is the manager and things won't get better unless there is wholesale change.
A fish rots from the head down after all ☹️.

Agree on all you have stated mate.

[Derbymiller]

I have listened to the interview, at least he apologised to the fans and didnt blame one player. However, there is no personal responsibility from the management team he blamed the players saying they didnt listen, they disrespected the other team and they switched off. So why? Why dont the players listen, follow instructions or perform? Who is accountable for that? Mr Evans.

[RU66]

I didn't go but did he play Wilkes on the right? If he did were did Holmes play?

[mellowmiller]

I have listened to the interview, at least he apologised to the fans and didnt blame one player. However, there is no personal responsibility from the management team he blamed the players saying they didnt listen, they disrespected the other team and they switched off. So why? Why dont the players listen, follow instructions or perform? Who is accountable for that? Mr Evans.

Surely part of the problem is that Raynor (and occasionally the fat bloke) scream so much unintelligible rubbish at the players that it must eventually affect their confidence or just become like water off a duck's back.
I've been to every home game this season and have found it virtually impossible to work out the shape or determine the game plan and on most occasions things only got better when substitutions were made which suggests the management team rarely get things right from the start.
It's not really surprising if the players aren't really listening.

[mellowmiller]

I didn't go but did he play Wilkes on the right? If he did were did Holmes play?

Wilkes on the left and Holmes on the right.
Jack did OK in patches but tended to drift inside too much when he is generally more effective staying out wide. He's very raw but does have potential if he's coached properly.
Wilkes scored but didn't do much else.

[RU66]

Wilkes on the left and Holmes on the right.
Jack did OK in patches but tended to drift inside too much when he is generally more effective staying out wide. He's very raw but does have potential if he's coached properly.
Wilkes scored but didn't do much else.

Wilkes can't play wide left it's his natural side but it's not his game going on the outside.