Romared Match Thoughts Exeter City v Barnsley

[Young_Nudger]

It doesn't work how you think it works with regard to people who live in the borough but don't support Barnsley .

I'll tell you for why , if the truth be known the Sheffield clubs and Leeds United are as underperforming entities as we are currently , I don't see any Premier League longevity and Wednesday haven't competed in the Premier League for over 20 years .

Anybody from the borough supporting those three doesn't do it for the winning of trophies or even for the Premier League badge of honour .

What happens is , is that because of the close proximity of both city's youngsters get taken along by parents or relatives and once they go through those turnstiles it instantly becomes the club they support , I'd wager a month's wage that's how Jules came to support Barnsley even though I don't think he's lived in the borough in his entire life .

Here's another aspect to this even though it's a different sport but the same rules apply none the less .

I've supported Wakefield Trinity for 42 years but if someone formed a Rugby League club in Barnsley and they started to rise through the league's and become a force in the game overtaking or even became at least level with Trinity I wouldn't ditch my allegiance to Trinity because I'm a Barnsley lad .

Wakefield Trinity is my club and that is that .

Yer totally missing the point.
It works like this.

Nar then son I?m thinking of taking you with me to watch Barnsley v Aldershot on Saturday.
Or if you want we could go and see Sheffield Wednesday.
Who are Sheffield playing dad ?
Well it?s Manchester United.
Let?s go and watch Sheffield Wednesday then dad.

And another Wednesday fan is born.

The football supporters drawn away from watching their own town club of Barnsley - do so because of the league those other clubs are in - the opposition they are playing - and the footballers in those teams.

If the good footballers that play for Barnsley are sold to Leeds and the Sheffield clubs allowing those clubs to proceed while keeping Barnsley swilling about in the doldrums - then why watch Barnsley when another 20 minutes on the journey you can watch a club that wants to progress and move forward ???

[Young_Nudger]

Even if the stadium allowed would we ever see the 33k or the 32k we saw in the 80's against Manchester City and Everton respectively in the cups ? , I doubt it .

In fact I'd go as far as to say the stadium is too big for us now at 22k .

We are a league one club that sometimes play in the championship and that's how things are now and I don't see that changing anytime soon .

You are expressing a typical Barnsley attitude to life.
Had nowt - don?t expect owt.
Think small - always be small.

It?s horrendous and cringeworthy to listen to.

And a reason IMO why JAQ often becomes unstuck here - because the downtrodden humdrum mindset of many in Barnsley is something rarely seen elsewhere.
It?s very likely she has never come across it before. Especially in places such as Australia and America.
I remember someone asking her a question about little old Barnsley.
And she looked flabbergasted and said something on the lines of ?the directors don?t see the club as little old Barnsley.?

[Jules88]

Yer totally missing the point.
It works like this.

Nar then son I?m thinking of taking you with me to watch Barnsley v Aldershot on Saturday.
Or if you want we could go and see Sheffield Wednesday.
Who are Sheffield playing dad ?
Well it?s Manchester United.
Let?s go and watch Sheffield Wednesday then dad.

And another Wednesday fan is born.

The football supporters drawn away from watching their own town club of Barnsley - do so because of the league those other clubs are in - the opposition they are playing - and the footballers in those teams.

If the good footballers that play for Barnsley are sold to Leeds and the Sheffield clubs allowing those clubs to proceed while keeping Barnsley swilling about in the doldrums - then why watch Barnsley when another 20 minutes on the journey you can watch a club that wants to progress and move forward ???

That the whole world in a nutshell Nudge. You are absolutely right. Spoilt B@s tud kids these days, getting everything they want. Dad gives in.
They?d be stopping at home in our house, going to no Hillsborough.

[Jules88]

And

We ARE “little old Barnsley Nudge” and unless we get owners with the mindset to spend and succeed, we could fill the ground twice over and we still would not compete with the likes of Birmingham and Ipswich’s spend in this League. Fan attendance and scarves purchased just wont pay for it. We shop in Lidl, and the Market. Get used to it. You need to manage your own expectations, not try to constantly manage ours. We don’t all have the rose coloured specs you have.

There was a bike shop in Skelmanthorpe run by a geezer called “Clarence Bradbury” rumour had it he was the first person in the county to sell bikes. Had he had ambition he could have had an empire, but his shop was a Sh 1t ole, and he never progressed beyond that shop. His knowledge of bikes was second to none……. No ambition.

The support we have is pretty good, as others have said……. Will you please get it into your head that these owners just will not EVER splash the cash. Even if the ground was full every week. They think they will just get lucky in putting together a combination of lower league youth players and “just wasn’t good enough for Man City” types for little cost initially, and eventually it will come good.

Trouble is there’s 40 clubs in the lower leagues doing the same, but six others every year are splashing the cash to guarantee always being in the frame. Some of these are coming from below us. (Just how long before another lower league club does a Wrexham and procures high profile, high spending owners and then we slip down ladder another rung).

It’s tiring re hashing the same posts about the number of Wednesday shirts in the town every month, same with Mcatee and Cole.
Bums on seats and a few shirts don’t do it anymore more.

[Young_Nudger]

Jules - this is basically where I see us right now.
We are again being squeezed by our main business competitors for support as the Leeds and Sheffield clubs are showing a revival.
If one or two get promoted then that pressure will increase.
There are already 1000s of those supporters following those teams in our district.

As our competitors experience a revival - Barnsley are suffering from a dip in form - caused primarily by poor recruitment of HCs in the last 2 seasons and this season also in playing positions ie out and out strikers.

Recruitment has to be better.
If Sormaz doesn?t improve he will be gone.
Neerav won?t spend ?8 million per year just to tread water.

However - the basic formula at the club - eg playing style, and previous recruitment beyond the last 2 seasons, has been excellent.
Get the recruitment back up to speed and find a way to nail down successful HCs and the club will be very successful.
The Stendel, Ismeal and Duff seasons proved that.

Barnsley is crying out for a period of sustained success - like similar clubs such as Bolton, Burnley and Blackburn have had.

Barnsley have never experienced a period of success like these clubs have had.
These clubs have increased their fan base because of past successes - they have a rough idea what attendances would be like wherever they are in the leagues.
Barnsley dosent have that experience.
No one yet knows what the attendances would be at Barnsley in the Championship if we had previously been in the Premier for say 3 seasons.
If we did that - the pressure for supporters from the Leeds and Sheffield clubs would reduce markedly.

If clubs such as Bolton, Burnley and Blackburn can do it - then so can Barnsley.
The directors can see that - they know Barnsley is a football mad town.

[SBRed48]

And a reason IMO why JAQ often becomes unstuck here - because the downtrodden humdrum mindset of many in Barnsley is something rarely seen elsewhere.
It?s very likely she has never come across it before. Especially in places such as Australia and America.
I remember someone asking her a question about little old Barnsley.
And she looked flabbergasted and said something on the lines of ?the directors don?t see the club as little old Barnsley.?

Julie Edmonds (JAQ) is here at Barnsley to oversee the interests of the shares bought by her husband Matthew, who is a new York Hedge Fund manager drawn into the Conway prospect of profits to be made and one of the original Investor Group in the 2017 Consortium.
VFILES is not a business in the sense of having employees, making and selling things. It is a social media fashion and music site more akin to a charity promoting and publicising other companies.

She is loud and wacky and can easily talk over fans at meetings but there is no lifetime hard nose business behind the talk. VFILES is yet more social media fluff the world seems to worship nowadays. I'm not fooled by it.

[animallittle3]

You are expressing a typical Barnsley attitude to life.
Had nowt - don?t expect owt.
Think small - always be small.

It?s horrendous and cringeworthy to listen to.

And a reason IMO why JAQ often becomes unstuck here - because the downtrodden humdrum mindset of many in Barnsley is something rarely seen elsewhere.
It?s very likely she has never come across it before. Especially in places such as Australia and America.
I remember someone asking her a question about little old Barnsley.
And she looked flabbergasted and said something on the lines of ?the directors don?t see the club as little old Barnsley.?

I think you'll find that the good folk of this town are realists and not from planet fantasy of which you yourself seem to descend from .

The majority of people in the borough aren't downtrodden or play the victim , they get on with things the best they can .

The club have played one season in the top flight in 137 years , it was once a championship club but that league is now financially beyond us to compete in for more than a couple of season's .

So whilst you trade in predictions that never quite seem to come to fruition , it tends to roll that way with fantasists , the rest of us take a measured view of reality .

[Shadrack the Red]

Sheffield and Leeds having a revival , what a load of bunkem , Utd are Sheffield"s top club who are currently pushing for promotion but that is not a revival , they yo yo between the championship and the premier on a regular basis , it is not a revival it is rinse and repeat , if you look at Leeds then read what I have said about Sheff u and it is ditto , and Wednesday having a revival ? that has to be an attempt at humour, they have not been in the top flight for over 20 years , they did flirt with the play offs under Carlos a few years ago but mid table in the championship is no where near a revival. I also read some more bunkem, suggesting that the poor recruitment of the last two seasons is now down to the HC"s not the recruitment team, well that is convenient , lets not blame the owners no, lets blame the the employees, its about time some of our fans stopped creeping around the Oakwell top brass and opened their eyes , whilst ever this lot are running our club we will continue in decline .

[Young_Nudger]

Shads
It wasn?t that long ago Sheffield United and Leeds United were bumping about in the 2nd and 3rd tier.
They are now yo yo ing between the 2nd and 1st tier.
That?s a revival.
I wish we were.

As for Wednesday they have dropped on a great manager in Rohl.
After many years of doing nothing he has got Wednesday playing with a team of misfits and leftovers.
If they keep Rohl then they could finish in the top 8.
That?s a revival.
I wish we had got him at Barnsley.

[animallittle3]

Sheffield and Leeds having a revival , what a load of bunkem , Utd are Sheffield"s top club who are currently pushing for promotion but that is not a revival , they yo yo between the championship and the premier on a regular basis , it is not a revival it is rinse and repeat , if you look at Leeds then read what I have said about Sheff u and it is ditto , and Wednesday having a revival ? that has to be an attempt at humour, they have not been in the top flight for over 20 years , they did flirt with the play offs under Carlos a few years ago but mid table in the championship is no where near a revival. I also read some more bunkem, suggesting that the poor recruitment of the last two seasons is now down to the HC"s not the recruitment team, well that is convenient , lets not blame the owners no, lets blame the the employees, its about time some of our fans stopped creeping around the Oakwell top brass and opened their eyes , whilst ever this lot are running our club we will continue in decline .

My position is that it's down to the club to win me back and get me to handover my hard earned and go through those turnstiles once again .

I owe the club absolutely nothing and they need to give me something to hang my hat on .

Nothing I see suggests to me that they have any kind of plan , they are reactive to events rather than proactive , the sacking of Collins with one game to go last season was a clear indication of that .

I need to buy in to something these days and all I see from one season to another is an ownership who have no vision and are simply hoping for something to turn up rather than putting things in place that promote a vision .

The club is lost and doesn't know what it is anymore , these people have run their race here and it's crying out for change and some fresh eyes .