OT - Transgender footballers

[Andy_Faber]

Well spotted TTR. Good to see you’re keeping up.

Yes, bit of an obvious post there TTR

[Trickytreesreds]

So the trans boxer is a human male then. The usual defenders want to retract their defiant defence ?

Seemed obvious to any sane person with a pair of eyes and not a woke cry baby

https://www.facebook.com/reel/420468...4676?fs=e&fs=e

[Trickytreesreds]

Yes, bit of an obvious post there TTR

Yes Andy. I was hinting at a boy playing in a girls team and no obvious outcry. They will regret not doing so in 2 years. In the UK girls are stppoed pkaying football with boys at under 11s to protect them. Its a pity the same thought doesnt go into protecting girls when a male infiltrates their sport

[Geoff Parkstone]

Yes Andy. I was hinting at a boy playing in a girls team and no obvious outcry. They will regret not doing so in 2 years. In the UK girls are stppoed pkaying football with boys at under 11s to protect them. Its a pity the same thought doesnt go into protecting girls when a male infiltrates their sport

the point is TTR that its not about protection, its all about entitlement.

Entitlement - a curse that pervades contemporary society. Where it came from, who knows, How we can rid society of the entitlement culture (if indeed we want to - IMHI it certainly needs significant moderation) is a massive challenge for the future.

[MadAmster]

Unclear which test the video is talking about. Is it the one from the '23 World's where Khelif was banned but neither Khelif nor the Algerian Boxing Board of Control were given any info other than "you're male, you're banned" or is it a more recent test? It's usual protocol to fully detail any tests carried out including the allowing of B samples to be tested by the athletes national Board or Committee. That didn't happen with Khelif in 2023.

Does Khelif "look" like a possible male? Yes. That doesn't make it true. We should also remember that the organisation that banned Khelif lost its Olympic Accreditation due to decades of financial irregularities, fraud and corruption. They also have different rules to the IOC which muddy the waters soemwhat. What is needed is an independent test that gets fully documented. If Khelif turns out to be male then the medal should be returned. The '23 test holds no credibility due to the accepted protocols not being followed. Interesting to note that there was no issue with the Russian based and Russian led IBA until Khelif defeated a Russian in the '23 semi final. How much of what happened then is political?

It may be that Khelif is male, or female, but there has not yet been a reliable test result, IMO. The IBA one is flawed. If the one referred to in the video is the IBA one then I'm still not convinced. I'm not alone. That's why a new definitive test is needed to remove any and all doubt. Mam and Dad say girl. Have they been wrong all those years?

For me, it's the status quo until there's a definitive result. Until that time, SHE is an Olympic Champion. After that we'll know if that remains so.