O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[KerrAvon]

Not in the slightest!

[Exiletyke]

Not in the slightest!

You know full well that it does annoy you when someone plays you at your own game & doesn't answer your questions
This is evidenced regularly when you make constant references to to your obsession with trying in one form or another to ellicit an answer [often from topics of the past] but hey ho we all do it, the one difference is that you are in denial & even lie about it

"Not in the slightest!" my arse

[millmoormagic]

Quite enjoy the thought of these supposed 'intelligent' folks on here lauding tory party policy's when i don't ever recall, ever, such a shambolic and incompetent government, a government with no mandate, with no power, clinging on for dear life while the country burns.

No integrity in this gov't whatsoever, alongside those that still.....still, support it, keep up the waffle Kerr, keep up the bull and the lies, i'm laughing my head off at you because you're as fake as this gov't, you deserve each other!!

[KerrAvon]

Quite enjoy the thought of these supposed 'intelligent' folks on here lauding tory party policy's when i don't ever recall, ever, such a shambolic and incompetent government, a government with no mandate, with no power, clinging on for dear life while the country burns.

No integrity in this gov't whatsoever, alongside those that still.....still, support it, keep up the waffle Kerr, keep up the bull and the lies, i'm laughing my head off at you because you're as fake as this gov't, you deserve each other!!

The government does have a mandate. They were mandated to deliver Brexit in 2016 and to be the government in 2017. You may disagree with both those mandates, but that is what happened.

As for integrity, May appears to be trying to deliver Brexit in a model that minimises the damage to the British economy. Labour on the other hand, seems to have forgotten its manifesto promise to honour the referendum decision and is, instead, now intent upon keeping all options including a further referendum open and has a Brexit secretary and a party within a party – Momentum – who are committed to such an outcome. Where’s the integrity there?

I don’t think there are many people on here who laud Tory policies.

[millmoormagic]

The government does have a mandate. They were mandated to deliver Brexit in 2016 and to be the government in 2017. You may disagree with both those mandates, but that is what happened.

As for integrity, May appears to be trying to deliver Brexit in a model that minimises the damage to the British economy. Labour on the other hand, seems to have forgotten its manifesto promise to honour the referendum decision and is, instead, now intent upon keeping all options including a further referendum open and has a Brexit secretary and a party within a party – Momentum – who are committed to such an outcome. Where’s the integrity there?

I don’t think there are many people on here who laud Tory policies.

You just have....

by the way, i'm still laughing at you continuing the absolute folly of supporting a gov't that is plainly dead in the water, while still trying to pretend that you're right all the time!!! hilarious...

As for integrity, you purport yourself as a lawyer, if that's the case, really, i've got more integrity in my left eyebrow fella...you wouldn't know integrity if it smacked you in the face....

Take another look at labour's position, once again you're leading with untruths to suit your argument, no surprise to me, but i suppose it does fool some people, thats a classic ploy, one i even think the mighty lawyer has fallen for given the latest bombshell about your gov't funding covert online propoganda against the leader of the opposition, and his party, you see, even lawyer's fall for bull shyte...

[KerrAvon]

You just have....

by the way, i'm still laughing at you continuing the absolute folly of supporting a gov't that is plainly dead in the water, while still trying to pretend that you're right all the time!!! hilarious...

As for integrity, you purport yourself as a lawyer, if that's the case, really, i've got more integrity in my left eyebrow fella...you wouldn't know integrity if it smacked you in the face....

Take another look at labour's position, once again you're leading with untruths to suit your argument, no surprise to me, but i suppose it does fool some people, thats a classic ploy, one i even think the mighty lawyer has fallen for given the latest bombshell about your gov't funding covert online propoganda against the leader of the opposition, and his party, you see, even lawyer's fall for bull shyte...

How have I landed a Tory policy? The vote has been pulled primarily because Tory MPs won't support it.

I know Labour's position - all six bullet points. They wish to remain in the CU and Single Market, which in turn means accepting the four freedoms, paying into the EU budget and the jurisdiction of the EU. In otherwords Brexit in name only. The party has also been moving behind a further referendum as per the extensive debate and fudging at their conference.

[ragingpup]

How have I landed a Tory policy? The vote has been pulled primarily because Tory MPs won't support it.

I know Labour's position - all six bullet points. They wish to remain in the CU and Single Market, which in turn means accepting the four freedoms, paying into the EU budget and the jurisdiction of the EU. In otherwords Brexit in name only. The party has also been moving behind a further referendum as per the extensive debate and fudging at their conference.

Are you sure about that? If the EU gave us all of those concessions for the withdrawal agreement and pledges for the future trading agreement as you have argued, what makes you think they wouldn't make similar surprising concessions on a deal that focuses on frictionless trade. It would be more favoured by the EUas it keeps us closer to them. This way, we would have to make some unfavourable concessions but might, crucially, achieve something closer to frictionless trade with the added advantage of not requiring the damaging backstop and gain a commons majority. It would depend on what concessions we could achieve/have to make on FoM and ECJ.

The EU have said they won't renegotiate, but I'd bet they would if the deal swung in this direction.

[millmoormagic]

How have I landed a Tory policy? The vote has been pulled primarily because Tory MPs won't support it.

I know Labour's position - all six bullet points. They wish to remain in the CU and Single Market, which in turn means accepting the four freedoms, paying into the EU budget and the jurisdiction of the EU. In otherwords Brexit in name only. The party has also been moving behind a further referendum as per the extensive debate and fudging at their conference.

"The party has also been moving behind a further referendum as per the extensive debate and fudging at their conference"

Ah, you don't like democracy at work do you Kerr, just an autocratic party like your own, extensive debate is exactly that,it's a shame you and yourparty can't do the same, we'd be in a much better place right now, pathetic Kerr, pathetic.

[rolymiller]

What a complete waste of time delaying the vote. The EU says they won't renegotiate and even if they did does anybody seriously think that May could get any meaningful concessions from them.

She is off her trolley and its time for her and her party to piss off for good.

[Exiletyke]

What a complete waste of time delaying the vote. The EU says they won't renegotiate and even if they did does anybody seriously think that May could get any meaningful concessions from them.

She is off her trolley and its time for her and her party to piss off for good.

If we or she grew a pair we should realise we are not at the beck & call of Juncker & Barnier but in a stronger position than we realise
Isn't it odd that we are now told by the ECJ that we can unilaterally reverse Brexit

The backstop keeps us in the CU potentially forever
We would still be under the jurisdiction of the ECJ