O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[KerrAvon]

If we or she grew a pair we should realise we are not at the beck & call of Juncker & Barnier but in a stronger position than we realise
Isn't it odd that we are now told by the ECJ that we can unilaterally reverse Brexit

The backstop keeps us in the CU potentially forever
We would still be under the jurisdiction of the ECJ

We aren’t in a particularly strong position. Yes the EU wants to trade with us and we are major contributors on policing and security matters, but the other EU countries will have the advantage of remaining in a huge trading bloc, whereas we won’t.

As for the decision of the ECJ being ‘odd’ – not really. They heard the case because a group of British politicians from the SNP, Plaid Cymru and Labour applied to them for an urgent declaration in advance of the vote that was intended for tomorrow.

If triggered, the backstop would involve remaining in the CU until such time as an alternative trading arrangement can be agreed, but we would not be under the jurisdiction of the ECJ, no matter what your YouTube vlogger says. You also have to bear in mind that Labour’s six bullet point back of a fag packet plan involves permanent CU and Single Market membership, freedom of movement and paying into the EU budget. Is that your preferred option?

[mellowmiller]

Indeed. But bad news for importers - particularly those that import component parts for their manufacturing processes (I understand 68% of imports from the EU is for this reason) and goods that are passed straight on to consumers in this country.

Any importer worth his salt should be negotiating prices in £ sterling thereby offsetting any issues arising from currency fluctuations.

[WanChaiMiller]

Any importer worth his salt should be negotiating prices in £ sterling thereby offsetting any issues arising from currency fluctuations.

Lol. Another example of total brexiteer fantasy.

No idea why you think the rest of the world will trade in Sterling to indemnify British companies against FX fluctuation. You will need to explain how this works.

[animallittle3]

Cameron got nothing out of them before he called the referendum , he left Brussels frustrated and empty handed .

I've gained a bit of grudging respect for the women over the last few months , stuck it out and showed a sense of duty and resilience but she's now displaying stubbornness as Thatcher did with the Poll Tax and we all know how that ended .

Ok it's a humiliating defeat but it will be a humiliating defeat eventually whether that is next week or in January , nowt will change .

She's done what could be done and it's fallen short , accept it you stupid women because by postponing the vote you've just made the whole thing more humiliating .

As for that bunch in Brussels you'd whistle for your £39bn if it was left to me .

We might need every penny we can get in the years ahead .

[animallittle3]

The current back stop in the deal for the island of Ireland was apparently the government's proposal and after much huffing and puffing was accepted by the EU .

As one EU big wig put it tonight " I'm at a loss why your government wants to renegotiate it's own proposal " , he looked totally bemused .

You couldn't make this up .

There will be a conclusion Mrs May , delay it all you want but it will happen eventually .

Yesterday you put your own political life and that of your party before democracy and parliament by playing for time when the reality is you don't have any time .

I'd be interested to know too why parliament will be breaking up for the xmas holidays , really !! , you should take xmas day off and that's about it given the seriousness of the situation .

Fatal error today Mrs May played out before the electorate and the worlds media .

This country is broken possibly for decades because of this thing , my word didn't you get the real UK laid bare Mr Cameron and you never even saw it coming and further proof Eton just provides the country with confident idiots but idiots none the less .

Not fit to govern , make way please .

[KerrAvon]

The current back stop in the deal for the island of Ireland was apparently the government's proposal and after much huffing and puffing was accepted by the EU .

As one EU big wig put it tonight " I'm at a loss why your government wants to renegotiate it's own proposal " , he looked totally bemused .

You couldn't make this up .

There will be a conclusion Mrs May , delay it all you want but it will happen eventually .

Yesterday you put your own political life and that of your party before democracy and parliament by playing for time when the reality is you don't have any time .

I'd be interested to know too why parliament will be breaking up for the xmas holidays , really !! , you should take xmas day off and that's about it given the seriousness of the situation .

Fatal error today Mrs May played out before the electorate and the worlds media .

This country is broken possibly for decades because of this thing , my word didn't you get the real UK laid bare Mr Cameron and you never even saw it coming and further proof Eton just provides the country with confident idiots but idiots none the less .

Not fit to govern , make way please .

Given that they won't move aside and Corbyn is being slow to take the one step that he could to try to make them, what is Labour's answer?

Are you in support of the further referendum favoured by Momentum, much of the PLP and your pick for leader - Starmer?

Or do you favour the ultra hard, job destroying Brexit that you called for a couple of days ago?

[KerrAvon]

Which is exactly what he's doing, he's a fully experienced parliamentarian, he's manouvred the tories into this position, he's playing them, and you, like a fiddle, he'll call for the no confidence vote when he's good and ready...if he did it right now he'd galvanise the tory's, and the DUP, please keep up...

In other words, he knows that he can't win so he isn't calling for a vote.

[millmoormagic]

In other words, he knows that he can't win so he isn't calling for a vote.

.....just yet, obviously.......please keep up....

[KerrAvon]

.....just yet, obviously.......please keep up....

Any idea when he is going to stop fiddling and spring, tiger like, into action?

[millmoormagic]

Any idea when he is going to stop fiddling and spring, tiger like, into action?

*Sigh.....He's not fiddling, he's not going to 'spring' into action, all he needs to do is sit and watch your party implode, watch this space tomorrow for further proof that your party is in disarray, and is damaging the country further than it ever has, while it dithers and bickers...

I once thought you were quite bright, it seems that you're as thick as pig shyte, seems to me you've swallowed every bit of bbc bull, in fact i dare bet that's the only station you ever watch....