O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[Geoff Parkstone]

Not sure if this is a covid or a Brexit comment but evidently crappy little UK has vaccinated more people than the rest of the might of the EU combined so far.

This stat obviously won't last, but suggests we've done something well and so the high future target vax rate might be attainable given that we seem to have got the systems set up. Touches wood.....

[Andy_Faber]

Not sure if this is a covid or a Brexit comment but evidently crappy little UK has vaccinated more people than the rest of the might of the EU combined so far.

This stat obviously won't last, but suggests we've done something well and so the high future target vax rate might be attainable given that we seem to have got the systems set up. Touches wood.....

Please stop posting stuff that’ll upset Swale

[ramAnag]

ICU staff, Covid ward staff, A&E staff, care home staff, nurses and carers in the community and GPs are now top of the list. Sensible as they all come in daily contact with multiple vulnerable people.

With regard to the 2nd jab, the Chief Medical Officer of Pfizer was on a Dutch chat show last night and said that the company still recommends having the 2nd jab 3 weeks after the first one...... probably merely covering his, and the company's, arses.

Parky will be pleased...might move to Holland.

Heard the same message about the timing of the second jab on the radio last night, MA.

[Geoff Parkstone]

A life of edam cheese, sugar on toast and Heineken? No I'm happy to wait in the queue

[MadAmster]

A life of edam cheese, sugar on toast and Heineken? No I'm happy to wait in the queue

Blinkered as ever GP. We have more than one cheese type and various sub types of each varying in fat content as well as levels of flavour. sugar on toast is a thing but only for a small % of the populace. Heineken is but one of many Dutch beers, the vast majority of which are much better than Heineken and we are gettig snowed under by the number of new micro breweries springing up and making some excellent beers as well as lagers and pilsners.

Still, you knew that before you posted...............

[Geoff Parkstone]

ooh and i forgot wooden shoes

[swaledale]

Please stop posting stuff that’ll upset Swale

How would that upset me? Tbh I'm only interested in how the UK does, irrelevant point scoring over how fast or not other countries are doing things is pointless.

Now Johnson has said that the vaccination of those most at risk should be completed mid Feb, lets hope that finally one of his optimistic predictions comes true. Now that would be worth commenting on!

[Ram59]

Not sure if this is a covid or a Brexit comment but evidently crappy little UK has vaccinated more people than the rest of the might of the EU combined so far.

This stat obviously won't last, but suggests we've done something well and so the high future target vax rate might be attainable given that we seem to have got the systems set up. Touches wood.....

One way to look at our situation is that, where we were still part of the EU, we would still have the high number of cases and this particularly virulent strain, but we would be part of the centralised EU strategy of ordering and administering the vaccine. In this instance we would have just started to administer the Pfizer vaccine but as they haven't ordered enough, then maybe we would be running out of supplies anytime soon. There wouldn't be any roll out of the Oxford vaccine until it had been approved by the EU, which is not going to happen anytime soon. We would be fustrated that although everyone should have started together, the Germans and the Hungarians jumped the gun and then we hear the Germans have decided to order their own extra supplies, totally against the spirit of all the EU together principal.

Basically, we're relying on the government to get millions of Brits vaccinated, but if we'd stayed in the EU, they'd have been powerless to do anything about it. I also seem to remember that the UK government were given the chance to be part of the centralised EU vaccination procurement and were widely criticised for going it alone.

[Andy_Faber]

One way to look at our situation is that, where we were still part of the EU, we would still have the high number of cases and this particularly virulent strain, but we would be part of the centralised EU strategy of ordering and administering the vaccine. In this instance we would have just started to administer the Pfizer vaccine but as they haven't ordered enough, then maybe we would be running out of supplies anytime soon. There wouldn't be any roll out of the Oxford vaccine until it had been approved by the EU, which is not going to happen anytime soon. We would be fustrated that although everyone should have started together, the Germans and the Hungarians jumped the gun and then we hear the Germans have decided to order their own extra supplies, totally against the spirit of all the EU together principal.

Basically, we're relying on the government to get millions of Brits vaccinated, but if we'd stayed in the EU, they'd have been powerless to do anything about it. I also seem to remember that the UK government were given the chance to be part of the centralised EU vaccination procurement and were widely criticised for going it alone.

Well put Ram, HMG gets constantly slagged yet the decision to order truckloads of vaccine was a master stroke, only enabled by not having an EU tag round it’s ankle

[MadAmster]

Dutch government getting slated for being the last in the EU to start vaccinating. Technically, they were the last to get the first jab in an arm. However, about half of the EU countries that "got in first" had a PR "for the public" stunt to get a few jabs in a few arms to add some "feel good" factor.

First jabs over here started this morning. I missed ambulance crew from the list of health care workers at the front of the queue I posted yesterday. Oversight amended.