Election Year or Fear!

[ramAnag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvkm48r70-Q

I did notice and take your point Tricky, however it’s a bit far fetched to say it’s the BBC ‘out to get Farage’ imo…I mean have you watched ‘Have I Got News For You’ this week. Very funny but they gave Starmer a particularly hard time over his repetitive ‘my father was a toolmaker’ line which culminated in Paul Merton saying ‘yeah well…he made you didn’t he!’. Was that the BBC ‘out to get Starmer’? No…it was just funny.

More seriously, on the subject of Farage, there’s a saying that ‘you can judge a man by the company he keeps’. Maybe you, and anyone else on here who’s interested, should Google the name George Cottrell - aka ‘Posh George’. Makes for interesting and disturbing reading.
Birds of a feather and all that.

[swaledale]

You'd have to be very thick to think the BBC are "out to get" Farage" All the evidence suggests they enabled him given his multiple appearances and media profile far in excess for someone who has never actually been elected other than to the EU.

Just as you'd have to be even thicker to think a privately educated block who was a commodities trader and used to bank at an exclusive bank Coutts and leads a political party which is a private company funded by billionaires has a clue or even cares about the ordinary bloke in the street!

Ad that's before you consider that he has absolutely no policies or solutions, just quick slogans aimed at the politically illiterate who it seems will swallow any old *******s without stopping to think how what is said would or even could improve their lives!

Its patently true that even today snake oil salesmen still have their customers!

[Andy_Faber]

Its patently true that even today snake oil salesmen still have their customers!

Indeed. 17,410,742 of them

Maybe Auntie should have installed a head shaking stooge in various audiences in 2016, it would certainly have eased your demeanour in the mean time

[MadAmster]

British values? I do miss them a little. Similar ones thrive over here. I hold doors open for others, regardless of their age. Those who don't intimate thanks by word or a nod of the head etc do get thanked by me and it always genders the required response. When using public transport in Amsterdam. I get offered a seat, mainly by late te-en to mid 20s young ladies. I decline, gracefully. I also offer my seat up to elderly folk, less mobile than myself and to pregnant women.

It's that sort of thing, the p's and q's, looking out for more than number 1, basically being a nice, kind and considerate person. One might even describe it as being social.

[Geoff Parkstone]

You'd have to be very thick to think the BBC are "out to get" Farage" All the evidence suggests they enabled him given his multiple appearances and media profile far in excess for someone who has never actually been elected other than to the EU.

Just as you'd have to be even thicker to think a privately educated block who was a commodities trader and used to bank at an exclusive bank Coutts and leads a political party which is a private company funded by billionaires has a clue or even cares about the ordinary bloke in the street!

Ad that's before you consider that he has absolutely no policies or solutions, just quick slogans aimed at the politically illiterate who it seems will swallow any old *******s without stopping to think how what is said would or even could improve their lives!

Its patently true that even today snake oil salesmen still have their customers!

"Just as you'd have to be even thicker to think a privately educated block who was a commodities trader..."

Whereas a privately educated block who was a barrister clearly does care?

[ramAnag]

British values? I do miss them a little. Similar ones thrive over here. I hold doors open for others, regardless of their age. Those who don't intimate thanks by word or a nod of the head etc do get thanked by me and it always genders the required response. When using public transport in Amsterdam. I get offered a seat, mainly by late te-en to mid 20s young ladies. I decline, gracefully. I also offer my seat up to elderly folk, less mobile than myself and to pregnant women.

It's that sort of thing, the p's and q's, looking out for more than number 1, basically being a nice, kind and considerate person. One might even describe it as being social.

At last…some sense. So these ‘British values’ are, it would seem, also Dutch values. Indeed they are, as I have been saying, universal values amongst ordinary decent folk throughout Europe and beyond. They are the values of politeness, respectfulness, kindness and consideration. Put another way…do unto others as you would have others do to you…a mantra which, imo, you won’t go far wrong with.

Unfortunately such values seem to have been long forgotten of late by the political classes where disrespect and repetitive manipulation of the truth seems to have become the order of the day. Sadly it seems to be, on this occasion, a practice that GP and AF have also adopted hence the utter and untruthful rubbish about me being anti British, disrespectful of the D-Day veterans and ‘ill-informed’ - the latter all because I happened to have retired from my profession prior to the introduction of a particular curriculum initiative.

You’re both happy to snipe away, but apparently not grown up enough to apologise when hopelessly and offensively in the wrong.

[Andy_Faber]

At last…some sense. So these ‘British values’ are, it would seem, also Dutch values. Indeed they are, as I have been saying, universal values amongst ordinary decent folk throughout Europe and beyond. They are the values of politeness, respectfulness, kindness and consideration. Put another way…do unto others as you would have others do to you…a mantra which, imo, you won’t go far wrong with.

Unfortunately such values seem to have been long forgotten of late by the political classes where disrespect and repetitive manipulation of the truth seems to have become the order of the day. Sadly it seems to be, on this occasion, a practice that GP and AF have also adopted hence the utter and untruthful rubbish about me being anti British, disrespectful of the D-Day veterans and ‘ill-informed’ - the latter all because I happened to have retired from my profession prior to the introduction of a particular curriculum initiative.

You’re both happy to snipe away, but apparently not grown up enough to apologise when hopelessly and offensively in the wrong.

So the Dutch can have Dutch values despite them being non-exclusive, but you’ve wasted 10,000 words arguing that The British can’t, despite all the evidence including HMG. You truly are a complex fellah rA

[ramAnag]

So the Dutch can have Dutch values despite them being non-exclusive, but you’ve wasted 10,000 words arguing that The British can’t, despite all the evidence including HMG. You truly are a complex fellah rA

Now who’s resorting to semantics and, not for the first time…exaggeration? If you read things carefully enough you’d recognise the phrase ‘universal values’. See you’re still avoiding discussing your ‘ill-informed’ allegation. I doubt that I’m complex but I can at least accept when I’m wrong.

[Trickytreesreds]

I did notice and take your point Tricky, however it’s a bit far fetched to say it’s the BBC ‘out to get Farage’ imo…I mean have you watched ‘Have I Got News For You’ this week. Very funny but they gave Starmer a particularly hard time over his repetitive ‘my father was a toolmaker’ line which culminated in Paul Merton saying ‘yeah well…he made you didn’t he!’. Was that the BBC ‘out to get Starmer’? No…it was just funny.

More seriously, on the subject of Farage, there’s a saying that ‘you can judge a man by the company he keeps’. Maybe you, and anyone else on here who’s interested, should Google the name George Cottrell - aka ‘Posh George’. Makes for interesting and disturbing reading.
Birds of a feather and all that.

Sorry RA, but it was all over rthe internet and lots of news debates about that audience and the shots shooting to the same people pullling faces. He was on QT a week earlier and Bruce interrupted him constantly, never let him finish, or stopped short of even letting him answer a question. She's got loads of OFCOM compliants flown in against her.
Of course, if you limit your viewing to the BBC, you are hardly going to know that sir are you?

The Starmer thing, is a piss take.
Farage subliminal programming shots were not funny, it was pre meditated bias. The BBC can be funny when it wants, but even then it is very particular of who gets it. Nish Kumar was prime agitator on that score. When he got cut, he screamed racism.

All politicians have dodgy mates, that is for sure. Starmer has his share believe me.

Lets take the SNP, who for years spent ther time in office slating the corrupt Tories and Parliament. Then oooooooooooooooops, they seem to have the same accountants as DCFC.

[Trickytreesreds]

Indeed. 17,410,742 of them

Maybe Auntie should have installed a head shaking stooge in various audiences in 2016, it would certainly have eased your demeanour in the mean time

It's their worst nightmare if every "far right" Brexit voter, decided to back him.
BTW Swale, you laughed a year ago, at the very thought of Reform challenging the Tories. Is Sunak, still laughing along with you?