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Thread: King Luke to Swansea

  1. #631
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle95 View Post
    Nobody is bigger than the club.
    That ought to be the case, but Alex Ferguson, Brian Clough and Don Revie - to name just three - proved otherwise with their clubs taking many many years to recover, if ever.
    LW hasn't been here long enough to be compared with Sirrel (who arrived 1969) or even Warnock (twenty years later), but if those managers come once in a generation, then a Luke Williams is probably once a decade. So i'm not feeling overly optimistic.

    Realistically perhaps the best we can hope for is that the new man gets seriously lucky in the play offs and then we accept several years of struggle in L1 avoiding the drop with numerous changes in the dugout until we eventually strike gold again with a man who takes us to into tier 2.
    Falling back to tier 4 mediocrity struggling to get into the top 7, if that's how it turns out, won't be pretty.

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    Some documents were leaked in 2020 (clubs reporting data in to the EFL) showing that the average wage for a Championship manager was £878,000.

  3. #633
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    Quote Originally Posted by BanjoPie View Post
    The average salary for championship managers ! - if he was paid less, he would be earning less than some of the players.
    Average, doesn't mean he is going to get it. Only takes 1 club to pay well above the odds to bring it to that kind of figure. They are going to want to get him for as cheap as possible. Plenty of players earn more than their Manager now days

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    Quote Originally Posted by cher1 View Post
    Some documents were leaked in 2020 (clubs reporting data in to the EFL) showing that the average wage for a Championship manager was £878,000.
    That figure would be boosted by clubs being relegated from the prem

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    That ought to be the case, but Alex Ferguson, Brian Clough and Don Revie - to name just three - proved otherwise with their clubs taking many many years to recover, if ever.
    LW hasn't been here long enough to be compared with Sirrel (who arrived 1969) or even Warnock (twenty years later), but if those managers come once in a generation, then a Luke Williams is probably once a decade. So i'm not feeling overly optimistic.

    Realistically perhaps the best we can hope for is that the new man gets seriously lucky in the play offs and then we accept several years of struggle in L1 avoiding the drop with numerous changes in the dugout until we eventually strike gold again with a man who takes us to into tier 2.
    Falling back to tier 4 mediocrity struggling to get into the top 7, if that's how it turns out, won't be pretty.
    Let's not be pessimistic
    The players loved LW but if we get the appointment right and bring in someone who has a similar inclusive attitude then we have something to build on
    All the most important players have at least another season on their contracts so unless we decide to sell them we will have to same guys on the pitch
    Who knows, the new guy might bring some decent reinforcements with him too
    Maybe I'll change my forum name to Pollyanna...

  6. #636
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    Swansea keep trotting out this external piece of paperwork, is that the Notts signature or LW signature because it's normally quite a simple document for management. Not allowed to poach former staff or players and the contract itself. You don't need to register management so what exactly is this external document?

  7. #637
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    Sounds like their stake holders haven't signed off on it yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpete View Post
    That figure would be boosted by clubs being relegated from the prem
    Presumably the opposite would be true for clubs promoted from League 1 as the average League One manager was paid £182,438.

    Apparently the highest paid manager in the Championship was on £3.46million a year. Who knows eh?

  9. #639
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    Quote Originally Posted by Could'vebeenacontender View Post
    Let's not be pessimistic
    The players loved LW but if we get the appointment right and bring in someone who has a similar inclusive attitude then we have something to build on
    All the most important players have at least another season on their contracts so unless we decide to sell them we will have to same guys on the pitch
    Who knows, the new guy might bring some decent reinforcements with him too
    Maybe I'll change my forum name to Pollyanna...
    John Bostocks’ finishes in June

  10. #640
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    I think people are getting over excited in the absence of news.

    Remember summer of 2022? Our new manager was a nobody, the apparently irreplaceable Kyle Wootton and Cal Roberts had left us and we'd bought a pair of 6th tier nobodys to fill that gap and it was unclear how we were going to ever accomplish anything ever again.

    Luke leaving is not what we wanted, but it happens and it shows joining us can be a pathway to bigger things for up and coming players and managers.

    Last couple of decades we've been a club where you might come to steal a last payday if you were past it.

    If he leaves, chances are we will recruit another good manager. If Macca leaves in summer, chances are we will recruit another good striker. The plan is to be like a lower league Brighton, where players and managers come and go but we profit and get gradually better in the meantime.

    I know this is really boring but my plan of action is wait and see what happens. If we have a massive drop off in form I'll get down about it. Until then I'm cautiously optimistic.

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