THE Ardley In/Out Thread [Multiple threads merged]

[laddo]

Where am I endlessly singing his praises? I'm merely countering some of the ridiculous comments and providing an alternative viewpoint to that of the overreactions of the angry mob#noagenda

Davy we get it , you've said the following equation many many times: Ardley Manager of Notts County when Relegated = Ardley's Fault = Worst Notts manager in history.

Ardley was appointed by Hardy, so then it's Hardy's fault. He then didn't sack him after first 12 games like you wanted , again Hardy's fault. And we would never have had Ardley if we hadn't sacked Nolan and Kewell, again Hardy's fault. But ignore all of this.

He was the owner and chairman for all of the above, think about that for a minute temper tantrum.

All of the above has all been covered many many times before we all know each others different views. None of us can do anything to change the current situation, that's up to the club (players,manager,owners).

Instead of going round in circles let's wait until he's sacked or leaves the club
Until then let us see what happens, and let's hope for a victory tonight regardless of our opinions on the current manager.

COYP

[Davy500]

I think you know i do not blame alan hardy at all, he appointed Ardley in good faith, when Ardley knew the situation at Notts, and told Hardy he could do something, not only that hardy heavily backed him in the transfer window ,yet ardley still failed that is his fault and no body elses, outwit by campbell with no resources and no pay
Just admit Ardley is a failure and as continued to be so
I want him gone, and if that means Notts have to set back initailly to do so, i believe in the long run we will be much better without him

[laddo]

He has been a failure to date, see that was easy. He's on successful if he gets us promotion. Let's be perfectly honest he joins a long long list of failed Notts managers.

The fact you don't hold Alan Hardy responsible at all when he was so irresponsible with the club's finances and made so many poor decisions in a such a short time period , says everything I need to know.

We don't need to waste anymore time on this.

[Davy500]

He has been a failure to date, see that was easy. He's on successful if he gets us promotion. Let's be perfectly honest he joins a long long list of failed Notts managers.

The fact you don't hold Alan Hardy responsible at all when he was so irresponsible with the club's finances and made so many poor decisions in a such a short time period , says everything I need to know.

We don't need to waste anymore time on this.

And for the tenth time, what has all that got to do with Ardleys job of managing the team, and doing the job he was appointed for

I put it another way, if i apply for a job and i am hired, if i do a crap job, its not my fault at all, but the company for employing me -

[magpie_mania]

I think you know i do not blame alan hardy at all, he appointed Ardley in good faith, when Ardley knew the situation at Notts, and told Hardy he could do something, not only that hardy heavily backed him in the transfer window ,yet ardley still failed that is his fault and no body elses, outwit by campbell with no resources and no pay
Just admit Ardley is a failure and as continued to be so
I want him gone, and if that means Notts have to set back initailly to do so, i believe in the long run we will be much better without him

He appointed him in good faith .... that did make me LOL as a defence of Hardy.

Does any chairman ever appoint a manager otherwise?

[Davy500]

Hardy is not responsible for Ardley relegating us, its Ardleys job as a manager to get the results necessary, you lot defending this clown will never end

[laddo]

It hasn't, although the sh!tshow behind the scenes didn't help matters. Worries about non payment of wages, putting club up for sale, bath gate.

Davy that's a good analogy, if the same HR department at that company hired someone who did an overall good job but then ran into some problems for the first time and was sacked, they then expensively hired someone and then fired them a few months later and had to pay compensation and then finally hired you who did a crap job all within the same calendar year.

Maybe the person at the company in the HR department making all the hirings and firings is the problem, to blame and needs sacking. Not the people they employed.

If the owner doesn't overreact and chop and change we don't get relegated IMO. I don't know that for certain (nobody does) but my opinion.

Hope that helps

[durhampie]

It hasn't, although the sh!tshow behind the scenes didn't help matters. Worries about non payment of wages, putting club up for sale, bath gate.

Davy that's a good analogy, if the same HR department at that company hired someone who did an overall good job but then ran into some problems for the first time and was sacked, they then expensively hired someone and then fired them a few months later and had to pay compensation and then finally hired you who did a crap job all within the same calendar year.

Maybe the person at the company in the HR department making all the hirings and firings is the problem, to blame and needs sacking. Not the people they employed.

If the owner doesn't overreact and chop and change we don't get relegated IMO. I don't know that for certain (nobody does) but my opinion.

Hope that helps

Ardley was allowed to bring in a number of his own players. At the time there was enough matches left to pick up enough points to keep us in the league. He failed to do a simple task given to him. He should have been sacked after the final whistle at Swindon..

[ncfcog]

He should have been sacked after the final whistle at Swindon..

Couldn't afford it!

[SwalePie]

As we enter February and we're well into the new year now let's have an update on the old IN/OUT/SHAKEITALLABOUT thread. Hopefully not long diatribes but quick updates. I have a feeling things will be pretty similar with few minds changed since the last reply on this thread in November...

I'm still an 'IN' at this point.