O/T:- Trump Presidency 2.0 [hic sunt dracones]

[Elite_Pie]

Trump has appointed himself judge and jury in the Ukraine war. He will claim to have got (gotten) all parties around the table and say "Right, you guys have been fighting over this territory for a long time and many lives have been lost, so I've decided to solve it by giving you 50% each. Mr Putin you come first alphabetically so pick the half you want, Mr Zelenskyy you get what's left. Donald J Trump pledged to sort this crisis, and now I have".

And all of his supporters will proclaim him a hero.

[i961pie]

I was reading the BBC world news this morning regarding Germany and the EU. With the German elections due in two weeks it says more and more younger people 20-30 are voting the for the far right and that 60% of EU young people are edging that way also. Frightening to say the least but it's what happens when governments fail to listen.

[BigFatPie]

I wonder if Vance will be lecturing Putin on free speech.............

In more free speech news the White House has banned Associated Press from press conferences because of their refusal to call the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/14/media...ico/index.html

[Jampie]

Freedom of speech means not only do I get to say what I want, but you get to say what I want too!!!1

[slack_pie]

I was reading the BBC world news this morning regarding Germany and the EU. With the German elections due in two weeks it says more and more younger people 20-30 are voting the for the far right and that 60% of EU young people are edging that way also. Frightening to say the least but it's what happens when governments fail to listen.

It's mostly the left's fault. People don't just become "far right" from one election to the next. People are fed up with the direction of travel and want change. It's a cry for help from normal people.

[Mapperleypie]

It's mostly the left's fault. People don't just become "far right" from one election to the next. People are fed up with the direction of travel and want change. It's a cry for help from normal people.

Absolutely. When Labour turned further left than I was comfortable with under Corbyn I, like most moderate Labour voters, considered joining combat 18.

[Glad2BeAPie]

And our brain dead P.M wants to put British personel on the ground in Ukraine

[SmiffyPie]

And our brain dead P.M wants to put British personel on the ground in Ukraine

Don't know where he's going to get them from, they have been slashed to the bone. Defence spending, easy penny-pinching target until they are required.

[BigFatPie]

It's mostly the left's fault. People don't just become "far right" from one election to the next. People are fed up with the direction of travel and want change. It's a cry for help from normal people.

The left. Hmmm.

An alternative theory is that millionaires, billionaires and bad faith politicians are successfully appealing to people?s worst instincts to convince them that black and brown people are the cause of their problems rather than millionaires and billionaires hoarding wealth.

How has voting for that far right chap in Argentina been going?

https://apnews.com/article/argentina...fb365ba8ce0f8#

Ah.

[Mapperleypie]

The left. Hmmm.

An alternative theory is that millionaires, billionaires and bad faith politicians are successfully appealing to people?s worst instincts to convince them that black and brown people are the cause of their problems rather than millionaires and billionaires hoarding wealth.

I think social media has a massive part to play. So many people are getting their 'news' from sources that do not (nor care) to go about basic fact-checks. Often these sources are driven by a divisive agenda simply for clicks or to suit their own outcomes.

People can call the BBC, Sky News and old-fashioned newsprint media in the UK but these sources were held to some sort of standard with potential (often way too minor) sanctions for getting things factually incorrect. This cannot be said for anything on social media. It's a complete wild-west of alternative facts and has driven many people to the extremes.