Give Sam time.

[Hammerman69]

[quote="sir terence brown"]69, I've noticed a lack of comprehension of other peoples opinions in quite a few of your posts mate.


You clearly attend loads of away games (your away reports are the stuff of legend) and have supported West Ham for many years yet your outlook is very much that of a modern premier lg era fan.


There seems to no understanding that some people might have supported the Hammers because of the style of football so any attempts at mentioning the lack of possession and siege defending is met with a pragmatic nudge toward the league table.

Allardyce apologists seem to expect that fans brought up on watching the likes of Brooking, Devonshire & DiCanio should just get over it and accept our lack of flair because 'The BFS way' is effective.

It is incomprehensible why anyone would yearn for more academy players in the team. . . . . that's just old fashioned isn't it? The academy argument

[sir terence brown]

You make a lot of assumptions. You seem to be reeling from Bondzos post and your posts are becoming more and more erratic.

Firstly, Carr, I don't know. Are you a mind reader? I won't explain myself but you are coming across as extremely arrogant.

Morrison fit? Do you actually believe he's not? Come on, no ones falling for that. It's a mexican stand off. Redknapp, an allardyce mate, gave the game away on TV. Not me guessing, another manager said he was fit. Do you actually believe what comes out the club?

Morrisons issues are like ****s. Who said that? I didn't. Yet again you're making things up to suit your argument. I said ****s, macavennie, di canio, hartson were trouble. Their behaviour would'nt have been accepted at man utd (by fergie) but we're west ham. We either have a team full of matty taylors or work with troubled souls. Take your choice. I know I would prefer to pander to the countries top talent rather than see him excel elsewhere.

So you're saying that a players on A

[bonzosbest74]

I know I would prefer to pander to the countries top talent rather than see him excel elsewhere.

Spot-on


If DiCanio wasn't unhinged then he would never have pulled on a West Ham shirt, we got lucky because he lost his temper with a referee shortly before Fergie was about to sign him.


The mentally strong/non-flawed genius players like Messi, Bergkamp & Zola always play for the big clubs, our only chance of a bit of stardust is a troubled soul. Personally I hope Wilfred Zaha keeps up his womanising and Jack Wilshere keeps on puffing on the B&H so as we can get them too. . . . . . . . . . .obviously only as back-up for Jarvis & Taylor though.

[terrya1965]

Though I`m delighted with our results in the past 4 games,I go along with Bonzo and Terence.

I don`t expect us to play like City or Liverpool,but I would like to see us mix it up a bit.Maybe play a few different systems at times.I`ll be honest with you,its dog sh*t to watch.
The days of us being the main Match on MotD & Match Choice have long gone.I love seeing West Ham win,but the way we doing it is very difficult to watch I`m afraid.

[Dailly___7]

Interesting viewing, this thread.

When it was first posted, the OP got a right c.unting (and rightly so) as he/she/it was clearly on a wind up.

But since our recent run of good results, it seems there are more and more posters willing to offer excuses for Fat Sam's shortcomings

As for your posts, Bonzo, I do happen to make you right on many of your points. But you're agreeing with everything ginger thumbs is saying, so you must be wrong

[bonzosbest74]

As for your posts, Bonzo, I do happen to make you right on many of your points. But you're agreeing with everything ginger thumbs is saying, so you must be wrong

So I'm wrong even when I'm right?. . . . . . .you sound remarkably like Mrs Bonzo

[Hammerman69]

[quote="sir terence brown"]You make a lot of assumptions. You seem to be reeling from Bondzos post and your posts are becoming more and more erratic.

Firstly, Carr, I don't know. Are you a mind reader? I won't explain myself but you are coming across as extremely arrogant.

Morrison fit? Do you actually believe he's not? Come on, no ones falling for that. It's a mexican stand off. Redknapp, an allardyce mate, gave the game away on TV. Not me guessing, another manager said he was fit. Do you actually believe what comes out the club?

Morrisons issues are like ****s. Who said that? I didn't. Yet again you're making things up to suit your argument. I said ****s, macavennie, di canio, hartson were trouble. Their behaviour would'nt have been accepted at man utd (by fergie) but we're west ham. We either have a team full of matty taylors or work with troubled souls. Take your choice. I know I would prefer to pander to the countries top talent rather than see him

[kirkup]

Original post whether a wind up or not, turned out to be fairly accurate at the end of the day.

Hammerman69 think you're wasting your time with STB, Blimp (The hot air balloon), Numbers, Thumbs etc. etc. etc.

To be honest in all his various guises I haven't known him to get anything, relating to FACTS right in his sorry life, IMHO of COURSE.

Having said that he did predict 2-0 in the Villa game, I'll leave you to guess which way round though

[bonzosbest74]

[quote="Hammerman69"]


At the end of he day, you can keep whinging about all these things you want, fast attacking football from the 80s and 90s etc but its a waste of time going over this time and time again. It is not going to happen unless we become a top 5 or 6 team and that means we need to be bought by a rich owner. No amount of complaining about it will make a difference I am afraid...it is what it is.


Let me explain, I'm not angry but I think these threads are so repetitive...the same whining and moaning and what good does it do. Its got to the point where after a win, noone wants to discuss the actual game but more about how we are not bringing some fabled mega skillful youth players through (ones noone can)...that is why I thought that was the most ridiculous post I had ever seen. I get the impression some want us to fail to get their own way, get Di Canio in, the club get relegated but at least we are playing the old west ham way eh ? Utte

[Hammerman69]

Last post so won't be an issue. No mate...I am bemused at some of the ******** that is posted over and over again. Youth, 'the west ham way' etc. I understand people are longing for something that is long gone...fine. I'd love it to be that way too...difference is I can see how moaning over and over again really makes no difference.

Yes, I made the comment about the back 4 a number of times in the vague hope that some people on here would want to talk about the football being this is a football board but no, all there is is negativity about how we should be playing the way we played in the 80s and that we should be bringing through this mythical group of fantastic youth players.
I have no problem with criticism when we play poorly, lose games we should win, make bad decisions etc but if you can criticise you have to be positive when things go well and some people on here are too blinded by hatred. If we won the CL like Chelsea did, people would complain about the style, that we don't