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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper64Frank View Post
    , to be honest you're talking like Corbyn is some sort of rabid communist, don't believe the media bull Frank, he's far from that, some .
    millmoormagic, can you point out where I'm making out Jeremy Corbyn is a ' rabid communist, I can't remember everything I've quoted & don't have the time to go back through them.
    You're wrong about the NHS it is a big black hole swallowing billions of pounds.
    Can't fault the frontline staff or the treatment
    that's handed out.
    NHS at any price ? ?.no thanks.
    btw mmm I don't take any notice of the media as far as politicians are concerned, I make my own mind up, always have, always will.[/QUOTE]

    What i meant was that you mention people with two cars and foreign holidays and allude to Corbyn taking all that away, which he plainly isn't about, NHS at any price, no, NHS doing it's job to the full, yes, what about Nuclear weapons then Frank, are you happy to have the trident upgrade at any price? Time to ditch nuclear weapons, and fully fund our conventional armed services, instead of cutting them, as the tories are doing, another thing Corbyn has outlined.
    I think you're more influenced by the media than you think mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millmoormagic View Post
    millmoormagic, can you point out where I'm making out Jeremy Corbyn is a ' rabid communist, I can't remember everything I've quoted & don't have the time to go back through them.
    You're wrong about the NHS it is a big black hole swallowing billions of pounds.
    Can't fault the frontline staff or the treatment
    that's handed out.
    NHS at any price ? ?.no thanks.
    btw mmm I don't take any notice of the media as far as politicians are concerned, I make my own mind up, always have, always will.
    What i meant was that you mention people with two cars and foreign holidays and allude to Corbyn taking all that away, which he plainly isn't about, NHS at any price, no, NHS doing it's job to the full, yes, what about Nuclear weapons then Frank, are you happy to have the trident upgrade at any price? Time to ditch nuclear weapons, and fully fund our conventional armed services, instead of cutting them, as the tories are doing, another thing Corbyn has outlined.
    I think you're more influenced by the media than you think mate.[/QUOTE]

    I didn't allude to anything about Corbyn.
    I stated facts, some working class ARE better off under the Tories, some THINK their better off and a large section still don't trust them on the economy.
    Trident - my personal view is it's not as big a detterent as what some people make out.

    It's already been mentioned on here....Corbyns age come the next Election after Brexit is sorted...way too old.

    You know nothing about me Bob.
    Have you met Corbyn, Blair, Miliband, Tony Benn, Dennis Skinner.
    , Dan Jarvis ?

    Repeat : I'm not influenced by the media.
    Last edited by Casper64Frank; 29-10-2017 at 09:48 AM.

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    I don't know about the facts Frank, that's just opinion...i'm not disagreeing that some people are better off under the tories, the country as a whole is clearly worse off, and that's my point.

    So, you don't see trident as a deterrent, me neither, so why bother, why not use the 205Billion on real things, real stuff to help the country as a whole? You know, funding the NHS, putting essential services (utilities) back into the public's hands, having a fairer welfare structure that doesn't put people in debt, hungry and on the streets....that for me is what Corbyn represents.

    As for his age, you may well be right, he's no spring chicken of that there's no doubt, he does seem to get about a lot and has a lot of energy, must be the veggie stuff eh?

    I know nothing about you, correct, do you know anything about me? clearly you have a clue, please tell. For what it's worth i've met Benn and Skinner many years ago during the miners strike.

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    We have a couple of things in common millmoormagic.
    Trust me Bob the Tories won't run as poor an Election campaign as last time
    Theresa May doesnt like George Osborne & vice versa, I get the impression she's trying to move slowly away from austerity, it's not worked the way they expected.
    Corbyn & Co still have a lot to do to get anywhere near being elected.

    PS....my brother - in - law sends his regards....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper64Frank View Post
    We have a couple of things in common millmoormagic.
    Trust me Bob the Tories won't run as poor an Election campaign as last time
    Theresa May doesnt like George Osborne & vice versa, I get the impression she's trying to move slowly away from austerity, it's not worked the way they expected.
    Corbyn & Co still have a lot to do to get anywhere near being elected.

    PS....my brother - in - law sends his regards....


    If the Tories don't get a deal from the EU they will collapse as a government .

    They will then be fighting an election campaign with a recent history of catastrophic failure .

    The electorate won't stomach them this time and Corbyn will win with a majority in my opinion .

    The EU deal is crucial to their future political existence and don't the EU know it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by animallittle3 View Post
    If the Tories don't get a deal from the EU they will collapse as a government .

    They will then be fighting an election campaign with a recent history of catastrophic failure .

    The electorate won't stomach them this time and Corbyn will win with a majority in my opinion .

    The EU deal is crucial to their future political existence and don't the EU know it .
    I hope you're right, millmoormagics reputation is on the line.
    If you are right I will buy thee a gallon of Barnsley Bitter & some dog food for thi whippet.

    They've ' circled ' the wagons, Boris has almost been gagged, apart from his insenstive remarks about Libya recently he's been inconspicuous.
    He did redeem himself by telling the Polish community they can stay after brexit.

    They do still have Barnsley Bitter & whippets over tarn way don't they ?
    The offer still stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper64Frank View Post
    I hope you're right, millmoormagics reputation is on the line.
    If you are right I will buy thee a gallon of Barnsley Bitter & some dog food for thi whippet.

    They've ' circled ' the wagons, Boris has almost been gagged, apart from his insenstive remarks about Libya recently he's been inconspicuous.
    He did redeem himself by telling the Polish community they can stay after brexit.

    They do still have Barnsley Bitter & whippets over tarn way don't they ?
    The offer still stands.
    Of course frank , I'll celebrate JC stood outside the door of Downing Street in style after his truimph :-) :-) :-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper64Frank View Post
    We have a couple of things in common millmoormagic.
    Trust me Bob the Tories won't run as poor an Election campaign as last time
    Theresa May doesnt like George Osborne & vice versa, I get the impression she's trying to move slowly away from austerity, it's not worked the way they expected.
    Corbyn & Co still have a lot to do to get anywhere near being elected.

    PS....my brother - in - law sends his regards....
    The tories are washed up, they have no leaders in their ranks, their poisonous policies have been found out, of course Corbyn has a lot of work to do, but he's still campaigning right now, everyday, not bad for an old bloke, and i still havent got a clue who you are!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by millmoormagic View Post
    The tories are washed up, they have no leaders in their ranks, their poisonous policies have been found out, of course Corbyn has a lot of work to do, but he's still campaigning right now, everyday, not bad for an old bloke, and i still havent got a clue who you are!!!
    Lots of work indeed millmoor , Frank needs to be convinced and he's the kind of voter who generally decide elections and so I feel his opinion is a very good barometer of where we are right now .

    That said the Tories and their self serving path to the country's destruction are also doing a fine job at improving Labour's chances .

    It's also fair to say Labour governments owe much to election victories when Tory governments completely screw up and the country have had enough .

    It would have to be the greatest election campaign in UK history for the Tories even to form a minority government and they neither have the policies or the talent to deliver that and deep down they know it .

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    The early bird catches the worm and fully endorses your view millmoor on Labour's continuous election campaign .

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-jeremy-corbyn

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