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Thread: Quiz the Rad Today at ER Opportunity ....... Positives & Negatives take note !

  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenidormBlanco View Post
    Can anyone here who has played the game as i have, please explain to WTF why you cannot ever give a player a garenteed place in the starting line-up?
    Seems im not getting through.
    Makes two of us then, doesn't it?

    I asked, what is the difference between the situation we now have, with Wiedwald as No.1, Lonnergan a distant No. 2 and BPF not even being considered for 1st team duties, and what WOULD have been had Green been retained, bring in Wiedwald, leave Lonnergan on loan, with BPF continuing to "develop"? We have 3 GKs, with one being the No.1 in everything but club announcement (which I suspect Green didn't ask for!), and we WOULD have had 3 GKs with one as No. 1, spot the difference?

    GL is the one position where it is possible to give guarantees, and also one position where being in your mid-thirties is actually a benefit (look around the teams and see what the age profile is). Outfield players can be asked to play just about anywhere (look at how Berardi has been pulled here there and everywhere), GK is between the sticks, not much positional "variety" expected!

    Anyway, we are never going to agree, its all hypothetical, and a lose-lose situation hs resulted, where club and player are worse off than they would have been.

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    Thought BPF was the substitute keeper last weekend?

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    33 games in and he gets on the bench?? He's no real "threat" to Wiedwald

    As I say, had Green been retained, given No.1, then Wiedwald would have known what he would be expected to deliver, and if he showed potential, the 1-year I suggested that Green should be given would have allowed him to develop. As it is, whether he has the potential or not, he will (ought to) be gone in the summer and any potential he may have will be lost, at least to Leeds.

    There was no real reason for the club to do what it did, and taking the course of action they did has resulted in us being at least 9 points fewer than had the flappy mistakes not happened. Would Green have been without mistakes? Who knows, but we won't find out now, will we?

    Anyway as I said in post #61, old story, no agreement, move on

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    Makes two of us then, doesn't it?

    I asked, what is the difference between the situation we now have, with Wiedwald as No.1, Lonnergan a distant No. 2 and BPF not even being considered for 1st team duties, and what WOULD have been had Green been retained, bring in Wiedwald, leave Lonnergan on loan, with BPF continuing to "develop"? We have 3 GKs, with one being the No.1 in everything but club announcement (which I suspect Green didn't ask for!), and we WOULD have had 3 GKs with one as No. 1, spot the difference?

    GL is the one position where it is possible to give guarantees, and also one position where being in your mid-thirties is actually a benefit (look around the teams and see what the age profile is). Outfield players can be asked to play just about anywhere (look at how Berardi has been pulled here there and everywhere), GK is between the sticks, not much positional "variety" expected!

    Anyway, we are never going to agree, its all hypothetical, and a lose-lose situation hs resulted, where club and player are worse off than they would have been.
    Your recollection is a little bit mixed up. Lonergan was an emergency signing, only pursued after Green had decided to leave.

    No-one said Felix was signed as a first choice keeper. However his arrival ( from his viewpoint) was timely as Green was injured so was able to make his case straight away. When Green returned from injury, perhaps Green was not showing TC enough to dislodge WW as first choice. ( Think Green more or less missed preseason and was only available for a couple of first team outings).

    Green could have stayed and proved that he should be this season's number 1 but he didn't.

    BPF imo has either been let down by the club or let himself down by not going out on loan. I think there must be questions mark by the club about his ability as he has not yet been able to establish himself as the second choice. Robinson & Carson were both under 20 when they did.

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    3 games in? can't legislate for TC's 30 games [I know, I know - you will reitterate your ongoing Orta is picking the team theme] The new coach has had a chance to look at his players now and possibly has decide that Lonergan isn't the aternative no?
    F ecks sake give him a chance?

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    FW has saved us points too but that seems to get lost in the final reckoning. As was said above, maybe he wasn’t intended to be first choice this season but to grow into it. Is he perfect, no; is he improving, yes; will he get better still, looks like it; have we had a stable back 4 in front of him, no.


    green played in front of a very good stable back 4 (so good they had there own song) for much of last season, if Felix had the same luxury sure it would have been easier for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tichi1 View Post
    3 games in? can't legislate for TC's 30 games [I know, I know - you will reitterate your ongoing Orta is picking the team theme] The new coach has had a chance to look at his players now and possibly has decide that Lonergan isn't the aternative no?
    F ecks sake give him a chance?
    Wasn't my point. If Heckingbottom decides to use BPF, so be it, and I hope the lad proves to be at least as good at Lonnergan & Wielwald (wouldn't be very hard), but my point was that the decision not to give Green what he wanted, for a season, resulted in us having no quality keeper at all, whether first choice, second choice or whatever.

    Anyway, he's gone, it won't change, and we obviously wont agree, so I'll drop it if everyone else does (BB included)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tichi1 View Post
    What a complete plum you are Marley......You slag people of saying they don't get within miles of the ground, never go see the team, plastic fans etc etc - then you claim to go to every game [Unlike most on here apparently] then here on this post you state that unlike you most don't shell out every week - so what does that make you you knob?
    On here giving it large all the time calling everyone else mugs and saying we're all in denial - and there's you - not a good word to say about our owners or most of the players - yet you go along shell out good money to watch the sh yte you claim to support?

    Well I don't know about you but I hate Man Utd and will happily slag them off till the cows come home [A bit like you do about Leeds] BUT I would never spend money going to watch them!

    You obviously don't see the Irony in that then fella [LOL LOL LOL]

    Carry on with your one man/boy campaign you idiot.
    most of em on here dont go , half of em are not even in the same country , that is the few that are left posting on here. lol

    leeds is merely a passing interest , not a passion , if you were shelling out every week it would be a different story.

    you only have to read a matchday thread every week to see that and the same posters. lol

    bottom line is i have a right to criticise , you lot would still be clapping if we were bottom of league 1 .

    this forum as been full of wet farts like you for years, thats why its died a death ,

    if it was not for two or three of you winding wtf up every five minutes , you would have nowt to post about lol

    no originality in your posts , because as previously said your like lemmings , because its easier for somebody to think for you , than do it for yourself.

    your the fella who thought burnley were jealous of leeds, because we were on sky tv more than them , you live in cuckooland fella .

    i dont have a good word to say about our owners because they are a waste of space , same as cellino , gfh, and bates was, and i was proved right on every occasion , this time will be no different .

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    where do you live Marley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenidormBlanco View Post
    where do you live Marley?
    rothwell in leeds fella .

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