Now Pardew has gone

[Geordie1974]

The way I see it is he has never won the Champions League.Unlike Rafa.But we can only talk about the now with Rafa not the past.
Where as we can talk about Pardew through his glory days in League 1 and a couple of top half finishes in the Premier League.
Goalposts moved all the time by ghost for a point of view that doesnt stand up anywhere.Pardew is finished now.For that I am happy.He did nothing but embarrass this club when here.Rafa does everything with dignity.
Before you say prove how he showed the club up.The headbutt at Hull,calling the Man City manager an old c##t.Not what I expect from a manager at Newcastle.
Also with you being pro Ashley,but not sure what you are today.You probably have this view as nearly every decent win we had which was not very often,the great Pardew dedicated it to Mike.
Hopefully Pardew will be away from football and the tv screens for a long time.

[ghostrider]

What a lot of complete bollox you spout. There was a divide for Pulis being sacked as he parked the bus too often but the team was generally organised and set up not to lose.

He got 12 games didn't he before he was sacked?
Any chance the problem is down to the players and the board/owner rather than Pulis?

There was no divide for clueless Pardew as everybody at the club wanted him out - no discipline and absolutely clueless.

Any chance of similar to above with the added bandwagon jumping of Newcastle fan hatred of Pardew and media normality of hyping up nonsense?

You say we would not have been saying the things about Sturridge had he hit the ground running - probably not but only a buffoon gambles 4 million on a sole new player whose injury record is shocking.

That's your owners issue, right?
Or are you 100% sure it's pardew's issue?
It seems Pardew's had to work with the tools he's been given, right?

As for being set up for the championship - what an insult. West Brom would come in the top ten for a club who are not in debt and financially sound and have one of the richest owners around - will he spend the cash in the Championship - who knows! By contrast, you have one of the meanest knob heads as an owner going who would rape the club at any opportunity.

Look mate, your club is going into the championship whatever you say and the way your players are being disrespectful to the fans and the club, plus an owner/board that appear to be calling the real shots, possibly, then you as fans would get much more enjoyment out of the championship rather than playing struggle along in the premier league until your owner/board wake up and smell the coffee.
I Don't care how much money your owner has, he's not putting it to good use.

Pardew should be put out to graze now.

He is at the minute and he may stay out but my guess is he'll be in a job sooner rather than later. Where at? Who knows?
Your owner deserves what he's got. You as fans, don't.

You have Rafa who is a suberb manager and good luck to you, and hope he takes your club to the success it deserves.

Hopefully we will get some excitement and forward progress from this point on.

[ghostrider]

****ing hell ghost, just when i didn't think you could go even more in to a Pardew defence

If there's only one side playing then there's no match or a one sided one.
I'm the opposition that gives the man a shout from my perspective of him and taking the good from the bad and indifferent instead of allowing the bad to come to the fore without reply.

The man does not deserve the hatred and full on digs as though he's been some kind of non achiever, because ( as I've shown) he's far from it.

[Geordie1974]

The man does not deserve the hatred and full on digs as though he's been some kind of non achiever, because ( as I've shown) he's far from it.

You havent shown me anything.What you put up doesnt back up what you say.Still a useless excuse for a manger and like I said a fraud.
Lets see how much he is rated now.See how long it is before or if he gets another mug to employ him.

[ghostrider]

The way I see it is he has never won the Champions League.Unlike Rafa.But we can only talk about the now with Rafa not the past.

Nobody's pushing anything on him winning any champions league.
Most managers have never won it if you want to go down that route.

Where as we can talk about Pardew through his glory days in League 1 and a couple of top half finishes in the Premier League.

That's the argument and purpose of it. Not a bad manager but not a top manager.

Goalposts moved all the time by ghost for a point of view that doesnt stand up anywhere.

Stands up perfectly well and I spent time showing it. I put effort into it.

Pardew is finished now.For that I am happy.He did nothing but embarrass this club when here.

The man hasn't burgled your house. Your hatred of him is irrational.

Rafa does everything with dignity.

Put a topic up about Rafa and we can discuss him.

Before you say prove how he showed the club up.The headbutt at Hull,calling the Man City manager an old c##t.Not what I expect from a manager at Newcastle.

Yep, the only manager ever to lose his cool where a touching of heads is a headbutt and calling another manager is the biggest crime that only Pardew does.

Also with you being pro Ashley,but not sure what you are today.You probably have this view as nearly every decent win we had which was not very often,the great Pardew dedicated it to Mike.
Hopefully Pardew will be away from football and the tv screens for a long time.

Hopefully Pardew will get a job and do well at it because I hold no ill will against the man, at all.

[ghostrider]

You havent shown me anything.What you put up doesnt back up what you say.Still a useless excuse for a manger and like I said a fraud.
Lets see how much he is rated now.See how long it is before or if he gets another mug to employ him.

Yeah, let's wait and see.

[Geordie1974]

Ghost you really do twist things.You and P/boro turn every thread into an anti Rafa thread.As for most managers losing their cool,I couldnt care less.He was manager here when he did it.
I dont have a hatred of anyone.My opinion is that Pardew is a fraud.Do you unserstand.My opinion.Same thing you have.Can you let others on here have an opinion.
Was only yesterday I was called a gonk by you.I am old enough and have broad shoulders,but a bit childish dont you agree.Just because I dont agree with you on Pardew.
Get over it.The majority think Pardew isnt a good manger.You do.

[ghostrider]

Ghost you really do twist things.You and P/boro turn every thread into an anti Rafa thread.

No I don't turn every thread into an anti Rafa thread. I've went into threads whining about his tactics but lately I've given him credit for a good while, so you need to revise your stance on that.

As for most managers losing their cool,I couldnt care less.He was manager here when he did it.

Yep he was and guess what? If Meyler had done that to me I might have actually punched him in the face or even grabbed him in a headlock or even nutted him just for the sheer utter contempt. I might have fell over and made a massive meal of it if I'd had my wits and got him sent off....but you know what? In the heat of the moment it's extremely hard for anyone to make a rational judgement for themselves, let alone try and condemn someone for retaliating with at least a mixture of irrational and then a rational retaliation which is why Meyler managed to walk away without anything being done to him, physically or referee wise.

I dont have a hatred of anyone.My opinion is that Pardew is a fraud.Do you unserstand.

Explain to me why he's a fraud. Give me genuine reasons as to why you have him down as a fraud.

My opinion.Same thing you have.Can you let others on here have an opinion.

You're having opinions like everyone else, including me. The issue isn't me not allowing them, it's in not agreeing with them just as you don't agree with mine.
See what I mean?

Was only yesterday I was called a gonk by you.I am old enough and have broad shoulders,but a bit childish dont you agree.Just because I dont agree with you on Pardew.

I apologise if I hurt your feelings calling you a gonk but it was a playful type of term. I called someone a git in the same manner. If I wanted to act nasty I could use what some use against me but I'm not nasty and I'm quite happy to have whatever is thrown at me.
Sticks and stones and all that.
Take is as lighthearted.

Get over it.The majority think Pardew isnt a good manger.You do.

The majority of who?
On this forum?
Or have you done a survey around the country?

Tell me about it.

[Geordie1974]

Didnt upset me.Far from it.Just a term that wasnt in tune with the discussion.
As for me saying Pardew is a fraud his last 3 jobs in the Premier League prove it.
I bet if we had a consensus of all the fans of the clubs he has managed the majority would say the same.He is not very good.
I will put myself on the line here.I bet he will not get another job as manager in the Premier League.
You mention you might have hit Meyler.We all probably would but he cant he was manager of Newcastle and conduct in public is a given.Also what was his excuse for calling Man City manager an old c##t?(cant remember his name).
Shows the class of the man.He has none.

[ghostrider]

As for me saying Pardew is a fraud his last 3 jobs in the Premier League prove it.

What do they prove?
What do you mean by fraud?
Explain the reasons behind him being the fraud.

I bet if we had a consensus of all the fans of the clubs he has managed the majority would say the same.He is not very good.

All fans from where? Forums?
General public or just football fans from the general public?

At this moment in time I would hazard a guess that most people would jump on the "not very good" bandwagon but that does not tell the entire story, does it?

I will put myself on the line here.I bet he will not get another job as manager in the Premier League.

Maybe he won't, maybe he will. Maybe he will get a championship club or overseas or take a big break...who really knows.

You're say you're sticking your neck out saying he won't get a premier league club.
I'll do the same and say he will at some stage. It just depends on what's available at the time.

You mention you might have hit Meyler.We all probably would but he cant he was manager of Newcastle and conduct in public is a given.

Rational conduct in public is a given. We are not talking rational..we are talking spur of the moment rage and irrationality that isn't a controlled mindset and therefore not subject of the public etiquette rule book at that specific time.
Regrets, I've had a few but then again too few.....or too many to mention will always be a natural aftermath of irrational behaviour that cannot be undone and unlikely to be ever truly curbed.
That goes for all of us.

Also what was his excuse for calling Man City manager an old c##t?(cant remember his name).
Shows the class of the man.He has none.

I don't know what his excuse was and personally I don't care. Heat of the moment stuff happens and even the best managers are guilty of it.