O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[swaledale]

Is he not allowed a holiday with his new born child in the totalitarian world of rA then.

Well he was off for a week at Chequers before the birth whilst the pandemic was building, in some far flung exotic place apparently paid for by someone he has just ennobled over Xmas and the new year, had paternity leave, I mean he seems to have more holidays then your average person.

And breaking from a holiday to do ones duty as a PM is not quite not having a holiday, though from the last years performance it seems highly likely he is more "not at work" than at work, but i suppose good old Dom is there to do the real work whilst the paid stooges utter nonsensical platitudes.

Williamson hasn't been sacked or resigned, no honour in politics these days, I mean it used to be when a minister ****ed up they resigned, but that seems not to be the case with this shower, too busy finding scapegoats.

[ramAnag]

Well he was off for a week at Chequers before the birth whilst the pandemic was building, in some far flung exotic place apparently paid for by someone he has just ennobled over Xmas and the new year, had paternity leave, I mean he seems to have more holidays then your average person.

And breaking from a holiday to do ones duty as a PM is not quite not having a holiday, though from the last years performance it seems highly likely he is more "not at work" than at work, but i suppose good old Dom is there to do the real work whilst the paid stooges utter nonsensical platitudes.

Williamson hasn't been sacked or resigned, no honour in politics these days, I mean it used to be when a minister ****ed up they resigned, but that seems not to be the case with this shower, too busy finding scapegoats.

It’s not as if any of the other major ‘players’ have anything to offer either though.
The Chancellor has had a bit to say...but Patel, Raab and Gove all seem to have taken a vow of silence too.
Seem to remember the Aussie PM taking a hammering because he went AWOL when there were some forest fires. Forgive me if I’m wrong GP, but aren’t we in the midst of a pandemic with an education crisis rapidly building and a Brexit deal to arrange in four months time?
Please tell me they haven’t left Frank - ‘I’m really very sorry’ - Spencer (Williamson) in charge.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Where's your milk of human kindness gone?

[ramAnag]

Where's your milk of human kindness gone?

To those who deserve it.

[mistaram]

Well he was off for a week at Chequers before the birth whilst the pandemic was building, in some far flung exotic place apparently paid for by someone he has just ennobled over Xmas and the new year, had paternity leave, I mean he seems to have more holidays then your average person.

And breaking from a holiday to do ones duty as a PM is not quite not having a holiday, though from the last years performance it seems highly likely he is more "not at work" than at work, but i suppose good old Dom is there to do the real work whilst the paid stooges utter nonsensical platitudes.

Williamson hasn't been sacked or resigned, no honour in politics these days, I mean it used to be when a minister ****ed up they resigned, but that seems not to be the case with this shower, too busy finding scapegoats.

Hancock Jenrick, Williamson they shouldn't need to resign they should have been sacked .But when your boss has no morals you can hardly expect the staff to have them

[mistaram]

Agreed, ‘they’ (trying not to be party political here) have ****ed up big style, someone forgot to do pre-implementation testing, a fundamental of the use of computer based logic in any environment. Let’s hope it’s not the same ‘they’ who are in charge of the vaccine.

Well 'they' are in charge of the vaccine theve bought 340million doses of six different types that nobody knows whether they work or not .
The only thing I'm pretty sure about is that they will have shares in the pharmaceutical companies producing them

[Andy_Faber]

Well 'they' are in charge of the vaccine theve bought 340million doses of six different types that nobody knows whether they work or not .
The only thing I'm pretty sure about is that they will have shares in the pharmaceutical companies producing them

You’re probably right. My’they’ though, goes beyond just HMG, I think there have been a lot of **** ups by a lot of entities that could have done so much better. I think a random group of a dozen men and women from’’the public’ should have been given the job of sense checking everything.

[ramAnag]

Here we are, let's stop corrupting other threads and discuss the Government's handling of Covid in it's own thread.

I'll try not to involve the media, as that is covered on a previous thread.

In the Government's defence, these are unprecedented times, creating many difficulties and many impossible decisions to get right.

On the other hand, many glaringly obvious wrong decisions have been made. So many stupid promises and claims have been made, regarding ppe supplies, tracing app and such.

In the fullness of time, you will hope that the true facts will come out. This will be difficult, as people will naturally try to cover up their own failings.

There you go, the floor is all yours.

Well, we’ve discussed, R59 and I think it’s fair to say that, GP’s not untypical indecision apart, the consensus - after 67 posts on the subject - is pretty damning.

[MadAmster]

IMO, going back to the Brexit ferry catastrophe when a Tory supporter (or was he a politician?) got £26M to organise ferry operations across the channel and back. He had no ferries. No experience of the ferry business other than as a customer. To paraphrase BoJo, he spaffed the lot up the wall.

Since then we have had:

The PPE fiasco where more Tory sympathisers got a shedload of money to organise PPE when in fact they had no experience of the medical supply industry. The medical grade masks have already failed the "fit for purpose" test and the non-medical ones, intended for the public, are also on the brink of failure.

The CV App fiasco where another shed got emptied of its cash to yet more friends of Cummings to create an app that has failed. The Irish have one that works and it cost £850K. Why doesn't BoJo offer to but it off the Irish?

There are more examples of nepotism where YOUR tax money has been put in the back pockets of friends, family and backers of BoJo et al and/or the Tory Party. The rich have got richer on the back of all these failures.

Similarly, in the USA, funds intended for small and medium sized businesses have found their way into the pockets of Trump's rich elite friends.

The man in the street is being screwed over while the 1% are lining their secret offshore bank accounts. Bring on the revolution.

[ramAnag]

IMO, going back to the Brexit ferry catastrophe when a Tory supporter (or was he a politician?) got £26M to organise ferry operations across the channel and back. He had no ferries. No experience of the ferry business other than as a customer. To paraphrase BoJo, he spaffed the lot up the wall.

Since then we have had:

The PPE fiasco where more Tory sympathisers got a shedload of money to organise PPE when in fact they had no experience of the medical supply industry. The medical grade masks have already failed the "fit for purpose" test and the non-medical ones, intended for the public, are also on the brink of failure.

The CV App fiasco where another shed got emptied of its cash to yet more friends of Cummings to create an app that has failed. The Irish have one that works and it cost £850K. Why doesn't BoJo offer to but it off the Irish?

There are more examples of nepotism where YOUR tax money has been put in the back pockets of friends, family and backers of BoJo et al and/or the Tory Party. The rich have got richer on the back of all these failures.

Similarly, in the USA, funds intended for small and medium sized businesses have found their way into the pockets of Trump's rich elite friends.

The man in the street is being screwed over while the 1% are lining their secret offshore bank accounts. Bring on the revolution.

All fair points, MA.

When such things happen and at a time when Marcus Rashford makes more sense over education policy than the Education Secretary there’s clearly something very wrong.

You’ll run the risk of being labelled a ‘lefty’ by some. Doesn’t particularly bother me...it’s all relative and I probably am slightly to the left of centre over many issues. Much more about right and wrong than Left and Right though, and you’re right...a ‘revolution’ in terms of values and priorities (as opposed to manning the barricades hopefully) is long overdue.