Euro Super League Anyone ?

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Villa fan here. Can we get back to hating each other again now please?

Don’t worry we never stopped when it comes to your manager and assistant manager

[Monaco_Totty]

Villa fan here. Can we get back to hating each other again now please?

Only one team in Birmingham !

[spaldy]

Villa fan here. Can we get back to hating each other again now please?

that is good! thanks for the chuckle.

[Billyni]

This hasn't gone away you know.
Once more people are getting their nests feathered out of it, it will re emerge.
Imagine for example, if sky were promoting it. Those pundits who are shooting it down now, would become little lap-dogs again and it will become the greatest thing since sliced bread.

[WTF11]

This hasn't gone away you know.
Once more people are getting their nests feathered out of it, it will re emerge.
Imagine for example, if sky were promoting it. Those pundits who are shooting it down now, would become little lap-dogs again and it will become the greatest thing since sliced bread.

In fairness (at least to Neville and Carragher), they have said that the issues that led to the ESL proposals haven't gone away and Neville we know has been working on independent monitoring/approval of club ownership.

Think the positives from this have been the strength and unanimity of fans/supporter response and the willingness of coaches and players of the clubs to voice their unequivocal opposition when "throwing the owners under a bus" as Neville put it.

[norfolk white]

Not a supporter of this super league, but go back 30 years, isn't this exactly what sky done to the football league, blew them out of the water with obscene money, created a new league irrespective of anyone else, the European Cup was then changed to the champions league (basically a super European league) to create more revenue, as is the europa league....if the super league had gone ahead sky, who were the big fish, would have become the minnows, as would uefa.....woe betide that happening.

[WTF11]

Not a supporter of this super league, but go back 30 years, isn't this exactly what sky done to the football league, blew them out of the water with obscene money, created a new league irrespective of anyone else, the European Cup was then changed to the champions league (basically a super European league) to create more revenue, as is the europa league....if the super league had gone ahead sky, who were the big fish, would have become the minnows, as would uefa.....woe betide that happening.

Completely different. No reduction in promotion/relegation, in fact quite the opposite. All clubs apart from those in the Premiership were left unchanged, and still with the opportunity to compete in the same cup competitions as before (FA/EFL cups etc). European Cup = Champions League, not too bothered about the change of name, nor membership, as long as all clubs were still included in the pyramid, which they were (and without wanting to get my tin hat on, Sky did inject a lot of money into a game that wasn't exactly well-financed at the time) and very much NO, the Champions League is most certainly NOT capable of being equated with the ESL which was going to be a closed shop, with NO promotion or relegation, and would kill the league, cup and other European competitions, not the same thing at all. As for the results of the ESL on Sky and UEFA, that would be the least of the problems had it gone ahead.

[Monaco_Totty]

Let's hope a better fairer prospect will be the outcome and not just a slot filler for TV pundits to yap about.For me it cannot be the Premier League’s sole responsibility to sort out all the latest issues arising.The Government itself needs to take responsibility of clubs in many embattled towns in parts of the country which have suffered hardships in recent decades as such places will lose their local focal point of even having a football club,particularly clubs that rely most heavily on matchday income to survive that are now at serious risk of going under like York City in my old town.

It's not just in the UK clubs struggle but clubs throughout Europe that fans are worried about and rightly have been for quite a while as I know from Mums filed correspondence.

As without PL riches where would Leeds be.As the Leeds Evening Post stated today the unity that swelled this week with various supporters Trusts working together and fans of many clubs putting tribal feelings and rivalries aside cannot be allowed to dissipate until the money men regroup and ride again.Football cannot go back to sleep.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co....notice-3209334

As for Europe's fan views - https://www.fanseurope.org/en/news/n...e-debacle.html

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Let's hope a better fairer prospect will be the outcome and not just a slot filler for TV pundits to yap about.For me it cannot be the Premier League’s sole responsibility to sort out all the latest issues arising.The Government itself needs to take responsibility of clubs in many embattled towns in parts of the country which have suffered hardships in recent decades as such places will lose their local focal point of even having a football club,particularly clubs that rely most heavily on matchday income to survive that are now at serious risk of going under like York City in my old town.

It's not just in the UK clubs struggle but clubs throughout Europe that fans are worried about and rightly have been for quite a while as I know from Mums filed correspondence.

As without PL riches where would Leeds be.As the Leeds Evening Post stated today the unity that swelled this week with various supporters Trusts working together and fans of many clubs putting tribal feelings and rivalries aside cannot be allowed to dissipate until the money men regroup and ride again.Football cannot go back to sleep.

https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co....notice-3209334

As for Europe's fan views - https://www.fanseurope.org/en/news/n...e-debacle.html

Until the clubs see economic sense then there will always be problems.

Whilst some clubs like MAn City and PSG are heavily funded by rich sovereign states then other clubs are likely to have to take crazy gambles to succeed.

I suspect salary caps are the only logical way forward.

[WTF11]

Until the clubs see economic sense then there will always be problems.

Whilst some clubs like MAn City and PSG are heavily funded by rich sovereign states then other clubs are likely to have to take crazy gambles to succeed.

I suspect salary caps are the only logical way forward.

This recent episode shows that "economic sense" is very much open to interpretation.

IMHO, its not economics that need to be explicit, it's the structures that all clubs MUST adhere to, the sanctions that WILL be applied (No "interpretation. You transgress, this is what WILL happen to you and your club), transparency of all to the outside world, no "behind closed doors" negotiations, acknowledgement that modern day football is a business, that profits need to be made and that in doing so, the pyramid will feed all concerned, but that (across the board) the obscene amounts of money paid to footballers, and the profits made by clubs and those to who rights are sold, need to strike a balance, which is very much NOT the case as it is.

No player, and I mean, NO player, is worth paying £100k/week for kicking a ball about, the pendulum has gone from one extreme where players were paid a pittance to one where obscene amounts of money distort what the game should be (I'd say the same about the money-grabbing ***** who heads up Betfred and pays herself 450m/year, but that's another issue!). As HO says, salary caps may well be the only way forward, but they need the same global structure as I referred to, no easy thing to achieve, given our "friends" in the east.

It's not going to be easy to sort out, and wont be quick either, (hence why the oversight is soooooo important and hard to maintain), but if it doesn't get done, another "ESL" will come along in the none too distant future.