Highlights vs Wrexham

[the_anticlough]

This. I don't think we were outplayed on Monday at all, obviously we're going to have to defend away at the league favourites but we could have had 2 or 3 in the first half with the right cut back. Then Sam not coming off his line quick enough for them to score got them going again and the crowd then it was backs to the wall but outplayed? No way.

I'd be one who uses 'outplayed' CF. But that starts for me with a team clearly 'having the better of the play'...
I don't think anyone on this thread is denying that it was a really good away performance - it definitely was. But they kind of 'rag dolled' us and their fans walked away trying to work out how they didn't win

If the same game was replayed 10 times? I'd say Wrexham win 7, Draw 2, We win 1...

Some posters, I'd be one, look at things through desperation to get out of this warped league with its 1+1 promotion chance out of 24. That's fricking tough. So looking for ways we can be a dominant team...
Laddo put it well above ''The reason we didn't show enough going forward for 90 mins is because at the moment we aren't good enough or performing well enough to do it against top sides'' It's very early days, but that's a bit of an uncomfortable position to be in when you're desperate to regain league status in a 1+1 league, with Chesterfield already ripping through their matches, let alone Wrexham.

I made my case though in this thread - we will go as far as Rodrigues and Roberts can take us. Two have great seasons, we're top. One has a great season we're top 3. Neither...we can forget it.

[ncfcog]

I'll be posting the stats report later and it's actually quite interesting that Wrexham pressed hard in the first half and other than the goal and a couple of half chances we were hardly in the game. Second half was actually very even.

[crazyfists]

I'd be one who uses 'outplayed' CF. But that starts for me with a team clearly 'having the better of the play'...
I don't think anyone on this thread is denying that it was a really good away performance - it definitely was. But they kind of 'rag dolled' us and their fans walked away trying to work out how they didn't win

If the same game was replayed 10 times? I'd say Wrexham win 7, Draw 2, We win 1...

Some posters, I'd be one, look at things through desperation to get out of this warped league with its 1+1 promotion chance out of 24. That's fricking tough. So looking for ways we can be a dominant team...
Laddo put it well above ''The reason we didn't show enough going forward for 90 mins is because at the moment we aren't good enough or performing well enough to do it against top sides'' It's very early days, but that's a bit of an uncomfortable position to be in when you're desperate to regain league status in a 1+1 league, with Chesterfield already ripping through their matches, let alone Wrexham.

I made my case though in this thread - we will go as far as Rodrigues and Roberts can take us. Two have great seasons, we're top. One has a great season we're top 3. Neither...we can forget it.

Yeah I appreciate what you're saying but I don't think we were outplayed or ragdolled as you say. Wrexham had the best of the chances and game but seeing as it's their first one of the season infront of their own fans with all the hullabaloo surrounding them plus them bringing in players from leagues above, this was always going to be hardest away game of the season and by and large we did ok. Other teams would have got pumped 5 or 6 nothing but we drew one all. I don't see a good dogged, defensive performance as being outplayed, yes they had the best of the game as you say but they were always going to on that particular night.

Roberts looked knackered when he came on and we couldn't get Rodriguez into the game in the second half but it was a bitty half until they scored which got them going again. I don't really know what people expect, if they expect us to go away to Wrexham with the circumstances of that night and be all over them then they're deluded. On nights like that you take what you can on the break and defend for your lives, the way people are talking we lost 5 nil but last time I checked it was one all. Good result for me away to the league favourites and now we have a run to really get a head of steam. I don't believe we'll win the league but do believe we'll get into the playoffs and then we'll have to see what happens.

[magpie_mania]

I'd be one who uses 'outplayed' CF. But that starts for me with a team clearly 'having the better of the play'...
I don't think anyone on this thread is denying that it was a really good away performance - it definitely was. But they kind of 'rag dolled' us and their fans walked away trying to work out how they didn't win

If the same game was replayed 10 times? I'd say Wrexham win 7, Draw 2, We win 1...

Some posters, I'd be one, look at things through desperation to get out of this warped league with its 1+1 promotion chance out of 24. That's fricking tough. So looking for ways we can be a dominant team...
Laddo put it well above ''The reason we didn't show enough going forward for 90 mins is because at the moment we aren't good enough or performing well enough to do it against top sides'' It's very early days, but that's a bit of an uncomfortable position to be in when you're desperate to regain league status in a 1+1 league, with Chesterfield already ripping through their matches, let alone Wrexham.

I made my case though in this thread - we will go as far as Rodrigues and Roberts can take us. Two have great seasons, we're top. One has a great season we're top 3. Neither...we can forget it.

Who have Chesterfield ripped apart? If you want to make comparisons, it needs to be like for like. You could say, have they scored 5 away? Or, how would they do against Wrexham away?

Looking forward to the stats mentioned above.

[magpie_mania]

Yeah I appreciate what you're saying but I don't think we were outplayed or ragdolled as you say. Wrexham had the best of the chances and game but seeing as it's their first one of the season infront of their own fans with all the hullabaloo surrounding them plus them bringing in players from leagues above, this was always going to be hardest away game of the season and by and large we did ok. Other teams would have got pumped 5 or 6 nothing but we drew one all. I don't see a good dogged, defensive performance as being outplayed, yes they had the best of the game as you say but they were always going to on that particular night.

Roberts looked knackered when he came on and we couldn't get Rodriguez into the game in the second half but it was a bitty half until they scored which got them going again. I don't really know what people expect, if they expect us to go away to Wrexham with the circumstances of that night and be all over them then they're deluded. On nights like that you take what you can on the break and defend for your lives, the way people are talking we lost 5 nil but last time I checked it was one all. Good result for me away to the league favourites and now we have a run to really get a head of steam. I don't believe we'll win the league but do believe we'll get into the playoffs and then we'll have to see what happens.

Good post

[the_anticlough]

Who have Chesterfield ripped apart? .

I think we'd all be quite happy with 3 wins out of 3, a GD of +6 and zero goals conceded, regardless of the opposition...I know, cos many were happy to be top of the league after 1 game.

OFC, our fixtures have been different...

Wrexham fans have said how happy/relieved/surprised they were that the main danger men, R and R weren't picked - 24 year-olds rested on only the 2nd week of the season. But we know IB gets a pass for this, both have special circumstances that means we have to ease them into the season more gradually. We might have even lost if they'd started over Mitchell and JOB in this weird fixture (schedule-wise)

[laddo]

We would be delighted, 2-0 is what I class a professional scoreline. Job done regardless of the opposition, but as we know it's clearly not comparing like for like. After 10 games everyone wil have played the good , the bad and the long ball.

I've bet on Chesterfield to win the league and I'm not surprised they've put the teams they've played to the sword. They were very impressive in the second half of last season and have spent some dosh in the close season to add to an already good squad.

IB doesn't need a pass, he had genuine reason, we got a very good point away at a title favourite. Agree in hindsight playing them both from the start would probably have been detrimental to out chances.

Those two should be nicely rested for a home game where we will be on the ball a lot more, and in the opponent's half a lot more...... hopefully.

[jacobncfc]

This. I don't think we were outplayed on Monday at all, obviously we're going to have to defend away at the league favourites but we could have had 2 or 3 in the first half with the right cut back. Then Sam not coming off his line quick enough for them to score got them going again and the crowd then it was backs to the wall but outplayed? No way.

We were ‘outplayed’ in the sense that they had more of the play, but I think we essentially accepted that was going to be the case before we even turned up. In terms of executing the plan, we probably did it better than Wrexham, who struggled to turn pressure into chances (as clubs often do down here - we did against Torquay last week).

[crazyfists]

I think I have a different definition of outplayed than some that's all. I don't see them having most of the play as us being outplayed, there's different ways to approach games. For example take Mourinho at Inter, they were 'outplayed' by Barca but they still won the champions league so I don't see having lots of the ball as being outplayed. As you say that was always going to be a tough night and it proved so but outplayed suggests a beating and it was anything but.

[laddo]

No better example than Simeone's Atletico Madrid, almost every time I see them play in the Champions League they are 'dominated' in terms of possession. It's just the manager's style and it works.