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Thread: POSTPONED: Tonight’s game v Dover

  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    A few more interesting takes on the situation from Dover.

    But from the outside looking in, why do we always seem to needlessly rub other teams up the wrong way??? No wonder we can’t sign any decent players, who would want to do business with Dover??

    This isn’t just tonight. This isn’t even just Notts County. They are just another team on a long list who have had apparent issues with the club. On the balance of credibility, surely they can’t all be wrong?


    This one takes a different view

    However,

    this league is the feeder one for non-league sides to get into the EFL, isn’t it?

    A place for small clubs to progress from?

    It was full of Crap tea, awfully thin turnstiles, matchday programs with 35 typos.

    Well it used to be, in the days of part time players aiming for the pinnacle of non-league football.

    Unfortunately it’s now been swamped by Notts-Happy-County, Gripesby, HollyWood Wreck-Sam et al, and in all honesty, I’m happier following a team made up of players who have a proper job 9-5, without a manager whinging that the grass is too wet to play.

    Bemoan DAFC as much as you like, but it is what it is, and we have been in the national league far longer than these EFL failures…

    As stated before, if you’d really been worried about damp grass and fought a bit harder, you wouldn’t now be in the gutter of proper non-league.

    Get over yourselves Notts Happy.

    We’ve seen it, done it, experienced it and suffered national cancellations for over 30 years.

    Why should you be so special?


    A reply to the above...

    Sorry, there’s a way we should deal with other clubs, whether they have money or not. When the boot was on the other foot, we bemoaned Eastleigh and Havent for exactly the same thing.
    I fully agree with the poster who says "if you’d really been worried about damp grass and fought a bit harder, you wouldn’t now be in the gutter of proper non-league". We are here because we deserve to be here, but that isn't the issue in this case. The National League has now become a proper Division 5, it's no longer "the days of part time players aiming for the pinnacle of non-league football". Surely it's not too much to ask to show fans of other clubs a bit of respect, not because their club is bigger and wealthier, but because they are fans. Dover are a small club, but that doesn't mean they have to act like a small club.

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    What the hell does "Notts-Happy-County" supposed to mean? I'm can't work out the reason for that addition.

    It's clear to me like Jackal suggested that Jumper Jim is the BIG fish in a very small pond so runs roughshod over everyone at the club#yesmen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    I know you said no replies needed, and even though I'm trying to be on my best behaviour and am not involved in this I feel I have to comment here. One poster did as you requested 90 minutes before you actually asked, and one poster praised him for doing the right thing but continued to carry on his petty personal argument on the Dover score prediction thread, instead of continuing it the proper place.

    I would respectfully ask that you bear this in mind for any future moderating decisions.
    I saw it, fixed it and moved on. It doesn't warrant any further analysis or comment whatsoever, they've moved to Handbags. Sorted!
    Last edited by SwalePie; 16-02-2022 at 08:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwalePie View Post
    I saw it, fixed it and moved on. It doesn't warrant any further analysis or comment whatsoever, they've moved to Handbags. Sorted!
    I beg to differ with that summary. "They" haven't moved it to handbags, only one of them has.

    That was the point I was making, but I'll leave it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddo View Post
    What the hell does "Notts-Happy-County" supposed to mean? I'm can't work out the reason for that addition.
    It's supposed to sound like "Not so happy county", I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2 View Post
    The thing that strikes me about Jim Parmenter in terms of the response to both postponements so far is that it all has to be about him and his ego. Not the players, not the manager, not a PR man (who may be the one holding the camera) but the Chairman himself, making ill-considered emotive statements which are fairly easily disproven and quite embarrassing to his club.

    Now where have we seen a chairman/owner falling into that trap before?
    It was striking that there was no acknowledgement or appreciation that Notts players, staff and fans had previously endured a 420 mile wasted round trip, and that it was understandable that Notts officials were only trying to do the right thing by their supporters. By wanting to know what was happening it could limit the risk of fans having another 420 miles wasted trip, or give them enough information to make their own judgments.

    It's not very good for hundreds of people to have to endure a 840 mile round trip, the time, expense and distress and inconvenience that it would cause for absolutely nothing had the game been postponed for a second time at say 4 or 5pm. For what it's worth I think the matchday referee made a sensible and reasonable call to bring a conclusion to the uncertainty at 2pm.

    It has to be remembered that Notts fans are Dover's customers as well, and will be when we do finally play Dover. Our fans will want to buy tickets, food and maybe a programme or a beer at the ground. That's all money for Dover Athletic.

    I'd like to think that Dover will do something as a good will gesture for Notts fans when we do play them, but based on the Chairman of Dover's video it seems doubtful. Maybe upon reflection their chairman will see things from a less emotive perspective and will reach out a welcoming hand of friendship and mutual respect to the Notts players, staff and supporters.
    Last edited by MAD_MAGPIE; 16-02-2022 at 09:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    I beg to differ with that summary. "They" haven't moved it to handbags, only one of them has.

    That was the point I was making, but I'll leave it there.
    OK, I didn't realise laddo had continued their fun and games outside the Handbags thread. I saw that Pedro had gone there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD_MAGPIE View Post
    It was striking that there was no acknowledgement or appreciation that Notts players, staff and fans had previously endured a 420 mile wasted round trip, and that it was understandable that Notts officials were only trying to do the right thing by their supporters. By wanting to know what was happening it could limit the risk of fans having another 420 miles wasted trip, or give them enough information to make their own judgments.

    It's not very good for hundreds of people to have to endure a 840 mile round trip, the time, expense and distress and inconvenience that it would cause for absolutely nothing had the game been postponed for a second time at say 4 or 5pm. For what it's worth I think the matchday referee made a sensible and reasonable call to bring a conclusion to the uncertainty at 2pm.

    It has to be remembered that Notts fans are Dover's customers as well, and will be when we do finally play Dover. Our fans will want to buy tickets, food and maybe a programme or a beer at the ground. That's all money for Dover Athletic.

    I'd like to think that Dover will do something as a good will gesture for Notts fans when we do play them, but based on the Chairman of Dover's video it seems doubtful. Maybe upon reflection their chairman will see things from a less emotive perspective and will reach out a welcoming hand of friendship and mutual respect to the Notts players, staff and supporters.
    I hope Notts fans grow some balls and boycott the game, and don't give a penny to their chairman after his remarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwalePie View Post
    OK, I didn't realise laddo had continued their fun and games outside the Handbags thread. I saw that Pedro had gone there.
    Good luck with this Swale. More chance of sorting out Brexit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    A few more interesting takes on the situation from Dover.

    But from the outside looking in, why do we always seem to needlessly rub other teams up the wrong way??? No wonder we can’t sign any decent players, who would want to do business with Dover??

    This isn’t just tonight. This isn’t even just Notts County. They are just another team on a long list who have had apparent issues with the club. On the balance of credibility, surely they can’t all be wrong?


    This one takes a different view

    However,

    this league is the feeder one for non-league sides to get into the EFL, isn’t it?

    A place for small clubs to progress from?

    It was full of Crap tea, awfully thin turnstiles, matchday programs with 35 typos.

    Well it used to be, in the days of part time players aiming for the pinnacle of non-league football.

    Unfortunately it’s now been swamped by Notts-Happy-County, Gripesby, HollyWood Wreck-Sam et al, and in all honesty, I’m happier following a team made up of players who have a proper job 9-5, without a manager whinging that the grass is too wet to play.

    Bemoan DAFC as much as you like, but it is what it is, and we have been in the national league far longer than these EFL failures…

    As stated before, if you’d really been worried about damp grass and fought a bit harder, you wouldn’t now be in the gutter of proper non-league.

    Get over yourselves Notts Happy.

    We’ve seen it, done it, experienced it and suffered national cancellations for over 30 years.

    Why should you be so special?


    A reply to the above...

    Sorry, there’s a way we should deal with other clubs, whether they have money or not. When the boot was on the other foot, we bemoaned Eastleigh and Havent for exactly the same thing.
    One has to say it was a fantastic speech from their chairmen done from the comfort of their changing rooms whilst donning a lovely hand crafted sweater knitted one can only assume by his grandma.
    However to emphasise his totally convincing points wouldn't he have been better taking his camera out onto the pitch to emphasise how good the playing surface was and giving us a panoramic view of the surroundings to gauge what a lovely bright sunny day it was with not a rain cloud in the sky !?

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