what advice would you give RMT unioin

[jdfc]

I was banned because another poster asked me what was happening with the new ferries being built at Ferguson’s Shipyard and I told the truth. The Mods on the DBF must be SNP supporters because they did not like being told the truth about this shambles and I was banned.
This happened long before the CMAL bosses discovered that the electric cables on the new ferries were too short and had to be ripped out.
I would have probably received a death sentence if had posted that information on the DBF.

They have all the hallmarks of being affiliated to the SNP

[BCram]

Did not realise Cobra had left. Sorry about that as he was often a positive voice.

[BCram]

Were you not banned because you continually ignored warnings not to discuss politics?

I think your reply and Islays reply illustrate perfectly the problem of political discussion in Scotland. Anything and I mean anything that is posted that has a degree of criticism of SNP actions is unacceptable to SNP supporters.
Islay made critical points about the ferries and blamed the situation on the incompetence of the SNP and their Calmac stooges. If he had invented some Westminster based reason for the ferry fiasco he would have been hailed as a hero, inn my opinion.
You can assume from my reply that I think the SNP are responsible for the failure to build the ferries.

[Deeranged]

I think your reply and Islays reply illustrate perfectly the problem of political discussion in Scotland. Anything and I mean anything that is posted that has a degree of criticism of SNP actions is unacceptable to SNP supporters.
Islay made critical points about the ferries and blamed the situation on the incompetence of the SNP and their Calmac stooges. If he had invented some Westminster based reason for the ferry fiasco he would have been hailed as a hero, inn my opinion.
You can assume from my reply that I think the SNP are responsible for the failure to build the ferries.

Of course the SNP is responsible for the ferries fiasco and it would be very difficult to convince anyone, even big SNP supporters, otherwise.

However I don't think it was specific criticism of the SNP that got Islay banned, and I also can't see why his banning was any indication that the owners of that site are SNP supporters who ban anyone criticising the SNP.

My understanding is that Islay was banned several times before his permanent ban because he was continually spamming all posts with political opinion - eventually the site owners just had enough of constantly having to manage him.

Of course Islay's opinion was often correct but as it's usually political, racist or ***ist it was also very often highly inflammatory. Bear in mind that nobody can have a discussion online with Islay because once he states something then to him it's fact and he will neither budge nor listen to any contrary opinion even when clear evidence is provided to him to show his opinion is wrong. Essentially he's very, very pig headed, and may he ever remain so, and people much more clever than him baited him and got reactions. In my view he was a massive loss to TDB forum because he was and still is comedy gold at times. One of the funniest things is that he just doesn't realise how funny he is.

[BCram]

Of course the SNP is responsible for the ferries fiasco and it would be very difficult to convince anyone, even big SNP supporters, otherwise.

However I don't think it was specific criticism of the SNP that got Islay banned, and I also can't see why his banning was any indication that the owners of that site are SNP supporters who ban anyone criticising the SNP.

My understanding is that Islay was banned several times before his permanent ban because he was continually spamming all posts with political opinion - eventually the site owners just had enough of constantly having to manage him.

Of course Islay's opinion was often correct but as it's usually political, racist or ***ist it was also very often highly inflammatory. Bear in mind that nobody can have a discussion online with Islay because once he states something then to him it's fact and he will neither budge nor listen to any contrary opinion even when clear evidence is provided to him to show his opinion is wrong. Essentially he's very, very pig headed, and may he ever remain so, and people much more clever than him baited him and got reactions. In my view he was a massive loss to TDB forum because he was and still is comedy gold at times. One of the funniest things is that he just doesn't realise how funny he is.

Well said Deeranged. I think you have probably got a better explanation for Islay's ban. It is not all about the SNP.

[islaydarkblue]

I think your reply and Islays reply illustrate perfectly the problem of political discussion in Scotland. Anything and I mean anything that is posted that has a degree of criticism of SNP actions is unacceptable to SNP supporters.
Islay made critical points about the ferries and blamed the situation on the incompetence of the SNP and their Calmac stooges. If he had invented some Westminster based reason for the ferry fiasco he would have been hailed as a hero, inn my opinion.
You can assume from my reply that I think the SNP are responsible for the failure to build the ferries.

I have some news ‘Hot off the Press’ about yet another Calmac ferry breaking down and being withdrawn from service.
The port engine of the MV Hebridean Isles which sails on the Kennacraig to Islay route broke down last Saturday afternoon and it has been out of action since then.
This is the third time that the MV Hebridean Isles has been withdrawn from service for repairs in the last ten months.
In September 2021 it had a hole in its hull resulting in it being withdrawn from service for two weeks. Last month its bow thruster failed resulting in it being out of action for several sailings and now it is out of action again.
Goodness knows how Nicola Sturgeon thinks that she can run an independent Scotland when she cannot run the Scottish Government owned Calmac ferry service thanks to her government starving CMAL of funds for new ferries for a number of years until she arranged for Fergusons shipyard to build to new ferries which are now five years late and hundreds of millions of pounds over budget.
Yet another SNP controlled Scottish Government shambles.

[grantzer]

I have some news ‘Hot off the Press’ about yet another Calmac ferry breaking down and being withdrawn from service.
The port engine of the MV Hebridean Isles which sails on the Kennacraig to Islay route broke down last Saturday afternoon and it has been out of action since then.
This is the third time that the MV Hebridean Isles has been withdrawn from service for repairs in the last ten months.
In September 2021 it had a hole in its hull resulting in it being withdrawn from service for two weeks. Last month its bow thruster failed resulting in it being out of action for several sailings and now it is out of action again.
Goodness knows how Nicola Sturgeon thinks that she can run an independent Scotland when she cannot run the Scottish Government owned Calmac ferry service thanks to her government starving CMAL of funds for new ferries for a number of years until she arranged for Fergusons shipyard to build to new ferries which are now five years late and hundreds of millions of pounds over budget.
Yet another SNP controlled Scottish Government shambles.

Totally agree. Why was she maintaining ferries??I bet she can't even weld properly.....

[BCram]

Any chance that Cobra would post on here?

[Returnofrros]

Any chance that Cobra would post on here?

No idea b cram he's posting on site I'm on now.

I told him you were asking for him.

May end up back on Pravda.....who knows.....hes not banned I don't think just didn't appreciate being called a racist......but hey who's not been called an ist or an ic of some kind of another on Pravda.

I was homophobic because I laughed at LGBT penguins.

I wonder if penguins go on grinder to pick up a pick up a penguin.

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[BCram]

Found a website that accredited the too poor too wee too stupid comment to John Swinney in 2001. Admittedly he was trying to say that that's what those who don't believe in the SNP independence message must think. Very surprised to find out that it wasn't a quote by someone from the unionist side making a statement about our country.

Have been wondering if Ross, Sarwar and Cole -Hamilton should jointly petition Westminster to have a snap Indyref2. do it now, save the £20m ear marked for it and just let the people decide. It would settle the matter one way or the other and might actually bring a worthwhile peace to our politics.

If the decision goes towards independence then so be it. If the decision goes towards staying in the Union then surely the SNP could invent themselves as a party that put Scotland first and they could drop their claim for independence, rather like tony Blair did when he dropped Clause 4 to create New Labour.

would New SNP without the target of full independence actually produce a better government for Scotland, by playing a supportive part at Westminster?