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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    I was going to keep out of this, but I can't let this one pass by.

    It's not a chairman's job to fund a business. It's his job to lead the business in a manner that meets its objectives and protects and serves the interest of its shareholders.

    In this case, the effective owner of the business is also TS. The objectives that he has set are to keep the club financially stable and to achieve all it can through the revenue it generates and the additional funding he provides .
    Does RUFC have any shareholders outside of the Stewart family?

    So are the objectives set too high for the finances available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogmiller View Post
    I think that this season still is our best chance of staying in the Championship. It all depends on January’s transfer window.

    Cash in on our assets and diminish our chances.

    Not get the players for the positions we need and diminish our chances.

    Staying up will need more investment for the following season. Anton Johnson type of investment. A risk worth taking?

    Or be happy with league one football and win more games than we lose with the hope that we’ll challenge for promotion.

    Assuming the Chairman isn't going to throw £5/£10m into the pot, to chase something, that given that level of investment guarantees nothing (except possible administration) in this league, why not sell an asset or two in January?

    Everyone has their price. Why wait for the inevitable (as many think on here) and wait until we're relegated. Their value goes down.

    Personally I think we've been very unlucky not to stay up the last two times.


    If there are no big investors or TS doesn't want to risk his own or money the club hasn't got why not sell our biggest assets now? Surely that's the only way to do something different?

    Unless a couple of thousand supporters are prepared to practise what they preach to the chairman and donate a grand each to sign a player or two? You might get two decent loans. That MIGHT make a difference in this league.

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    Att Brin/Cam. If possible can you delete the word planted? from my earlier post ? Possibly an inappropriate word to use and i apologise to anyone offended by it. Struggling with covid so not been in the best of moods !

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    The desire for an owner to invest more of his own money is understandable.

    It is the demanding of it that baffles me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timbertop View Post
    Att Brin/Cam. If possible can you delete the word planted? from my earlier post ? Possibly an inappropriate word to use and i apologise to anyone offended by it. Struggling with covid so not been in the best of moods !
    Sorry for biting, blame Frog for putting thread up 😉😂

    Hope your well soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scum-Triumphant View Post
    The desire for an owner to invest more of his own money is understandable.

    It is the demanding of it that baffles me.
    Same here that’s what gets me biting, I need to ignore it

  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scum-Triumphant View Post
    The desire for an owner to invest more of his own money is understandable.

    It is the demanding of it that baffles me.
    What baffles me is the serial failure of some people to "enjoy the moment". IMO the last 10 years have been great entertainment. Far and away the best period in all my 50+ years of following RUFC. Why you would prefer instead to wallow in bitter frustration over "what-ifs" and "what should be's" beats me.

    If you feel entitled to outrageous spending and guaranteed success then bugger off to the Etihad.

  8. #68
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    Most Rotherham fans don’t want outrageous spending. But wish he’d go a little bit further to try and cement our place in this league. But had soon as you say this the happy clappers jump down yr throat.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    I was going to keep out of this, but I can't let this one pass by.

    It's not a chairman's job to fund a business. It's his job to lead the business in a manner that meets its objectives and protects and serves the interest of its shareholders.

    In this case, the effective owner of the business is also TS. The objectives that he has set are to keep the club financially stable and to achieve all it can through the revenue it generates and the additional funding he provides.

    Under the stewardship of TS, the club has achieved a degree of stability and success that is unprecedented in over the previous thirty years and arguably longer.

    I get that people want more. I do. But to demand more or expect more shows an unrealistic and, frankly, disgraceful sense of entitlement.

    We really should reflect on the turmoil that we used to face and which, sadly, clubs like Bury no longer face.
    Kerr, you have my total admiration and support of your post, it's spot on. I too have banged the drum in frustration more than once of TS not going that 'little' bit more in previous January transfer windows. That in turn, probably cost us and saw us be relegated twice. All the hard work thrown away because of that dare not to gamble scenario. Does make you think long and hard what if and no one can deny that.

    Yes talk is cheap and ''it's not our money''.....''where is my financial input to back TS up?''.....''put your money where your mouth is''.....we've heard them all and I for one only wish I was in such a position to join TS, thing is though would he ever let me in if I was financially able to want to get onboard with him?

    By the way, you never replied to the PM I previously sent you. Not for this board of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howdydoo View Post
    Assuming the Chairman isn't going to throw £5/£10m into the pot, to chase something, that given that level of investment guarantees nothing (except possible administration) in this league, why not sell an asset or two in January?

    Everyone has their price. Why wait for the inevitable (as many think on here) and wait until we're relegated. Their value goes down.

    Personally I think we've been very unlucky not to stay up the last two times.


    If there are no big investors or TS doesn't want to risk his own or money the club hasn't got why not sell our biggest assets now? Surely that's the only way to do something different?

    Unless a couple of thousand supporters are prepared to practise what they preach to the chairman and donate a grand each to sign a player or two? You might get two decent loans. That MIGHT make a difference in this league.
    Good points.

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