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  1. #1
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    People can defend the manager as much as they want but he is not a winner and needs to be gone.Please dont let him go to the end of the season.Our season ticket sales will seriously suffer.

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    This isn't a criticism of Maynard but ask yourself this.
    If Nigel Clough had left Mansfield in January or Challinor left Stockport would they have appointed or even considered Maynard. I suspect not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pietastic View Post
    The problem with sacking the manager is that you risk bringing back the instability years - and that was a s*** time for our club. The "out of his depth" and "losing the dressing room" is unlikely - if you take the frustration and emotion away - but I can't really defend the bad results. I actually really liked us today (until the last 15 minutes!!) - thought the attitude was spot on and to be fair Langstaff could have had two today pretty easily.... But it's hard when you're on a bad run, confidence is lower and luck isn't coming your way.

    I'm not against people's opinions - and they may be right about Maynard not being right (tho personally I hope not) - but I do think people are human and turning on people and dissing them just brings the worst out of everyone.
    Agree with this in regards to the instability years and also being rude about SM. Seen a few calling him a clown, not warranted at all.

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    Look guys you all know he is not going to turn this round,you all know that.

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    Just accept the mistake,wish him well but please lets get a proper manager in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAD_MAGPIE View Post
    This is where I'm at. I thought we were ok today up and till the throw in that lead to the first goal. I thought JOB was the spoiler we needed in midfield and thought he had a good game alongside Robertson. I also felt Nemane had a very good game as well as Macari. A shame JOB had to come off at 70min but you can't expect more from him in that role at his age. I felt he was a loss along with Baldwin through the enforced injury. But once again two aerial balls into the box and we were found wanting. The manager can't be blamed for that we've been doing these things all season.

    The comparison between LW and SM results against all the eight teams is still paper thin like when I posed this a few weeks ago. (See below) However under LW we were losing against these sides but there was the credit of last season and other notable good results and performances in-between.

    I'm not advocating a defence for SM or trying to prove LW is no better. It's interesting and remarkable that despite trying to approach our defensive problems in two ways one outscoring the other team (aka Moniz) the other respecting the point (aka Ardley) yet the outcome against these sides has merited the same results apart from Gillingham.

    Under SM as we may have expected the attacking threat has took a hit to try and remedy the defensive frailties. The game today was a perfect example. Under LW we lost to Wimbledon 4-2 but today lost 0-2. The same result but a different score line.

    What's not done or doing SM any favours is at home the consecutive defeats are stacking up but also the entertainment levels and conviction have dropped.

    For me whoever is head coach next season the club have simply got to upgrade the defence and bring in League Two experienced central defenders (see Crewe, Wimbledon, Mansfield) and a Patterson type of goalkeeper. The alarm bells on this are ringing loud and clear and have been since Sutton on the opening day. The January transfer window is never a magic bullet. The summer is when the most and best availability is out there.

    Luke Williams = P8, W2, D1, L5, GF10, GA18, GD-8, Pts 7
    Barrow 1-1 (Draw)
    Gillingham 2-1 (Won)
    Mansfield 1-4 (Lost)
    Newport 3-0 (Won)
    Wrexham 0-2 (Lost)
    Crewe 0-1 (Lost)
    Sutton 1-5 (Lost)
    AFC Wimbledon 2-4 (Lost)


    Stuart Maynard = P8, W1, D1, L6, GF9, GA16, GD-7, Pts 4
    Barrow 1-1 (Draw)
    Gillingham 1-3 (Lost)
    Mansfield 0-1 (Lost)
    Newport 3-1 (Won)
    Wrexham 0-1 (Lost)
    Crewe 1-3 (Lost)
    Sutton 3-4 (Lost)
    AFC Wimbledon 0-2 (Lost)
    That's quite telling. No improvement but only marginally worse.
    I'm not saying Maynard is the answer but I think half of our squad are not the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by optipez View Post
    That's quite telling. No improvement but only marginally worse.
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    If the distinction between home and away games had been made on that comparison list, it would carry a whole different meaning,. Maynard has had 5 of those 8 clubs at home (LW had 3) as well as the more winnable fixtures at home. The two 'like for like' opponents LW lost to at home were against the current top two.
    LW beat all of the next three opponents coming up (Crawley, Accy & Bradford) so it will probably become a mute point anyway in the next 10 days.

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    Just watched his after match press conference, he looked a deflated and beaten man. I’m not sure he can invigorate the players to perform any better than they are doing. It’s okay saying we can’t defend set pieces into our box but you are the coach do something about it. Maybe play Jatta to help defend corners but it’s a problem he needs to solve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forwardmagpie View Post
    Just watched his after match press conference, he looked a deflated and beaten man. I’m not sure he can invigorate the players to perform any better than they are doing. It’s okay saying we can’t defend set pieces into our box but you are the coach do something about it. Maybe play Jatta to help defend corners but it’s a problem he needs to solve.
    A lot of people are saying it's on the players and that they need to take responsibility. If this is the case, what is the point of having a manager? It's his job to organise, motivate and get the best out of them collectively according to their strengths and weaknesses.

    A lot of people are also saying it wouldn't be any different if LW were still in charge, yet LW's home form was as strong as ever winning 4 of his last 5 at Meadow Lane, scoring 16 goals and conceding 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    A lot of people are saying it's on the players and that they need to take responsibility. If this is the case, what is the point of having a manager? It's his job to organise, motivate and get the best out of them collectively according to their strengths and weaknesses.

    A lot of people are also saying it wouldn't be any different if LW were still in charge, yet LW's home form was as strong as ever winning 4 of his last 5 at Meadow Lane, scoring 16 goals and conceding 5.
    Basically we needed to keep gung ho at home where it was working but away we needed to be more measured, that was the tweak we needed, instead we get this

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