O/T:- Forest Crying (Again)

[Notts78]

With the new technology the offside law needs changing..if anypart of the player is on side then it should be a goal...promoting and rewarding attacking football not rewarding negativity as it does at present.

That’s not for VAR or the refs to do though. They interpret the laws as they are not what they should be.
It’s funny that folk only moan when it’s an offside goal is not given. No one ever moans that a goal given offside and the player is found to be a gnats knacker on side and is given.
As for the 3 ‘penalties’ - I have seen them all and quite frankly they are all 50-50. If the ref had given them, I’m not sure they’d be overturned. For me they come under the not clear and obvious. The handball one was probably the easiest one that could have been referred, however, the proximity of You g to the player crossing possibly saved him.

[Notts78]

To add. My feeling that the tweet is aimed at trying to support there points deduction appeal. ‘Look at all these points we could have got if refs/VAR got decisions correct’. It smacks of desperation.

[drillerpie]

Because there is a margin of error, if it's clear the player is ahead, no one is bothered

Maybe I'm being thick here, but what's the margin in the cases where it's not clear? It still ends up with VAR drawing lines on a freeze frame to see if the lino made a mistake, doesn't it?

[MarcusCole]

I don't get this who thing about drawing lines on the screen to work out if someone is offside. the whole point of VAR was for Clear and Obvious errors to be reviewed. if you are having to draw lines on a freeze frame and then zoom right in, how it is obvious?

[legs77]

Maybe I'm being thick here, but what's the margin in the cases wher7e it's not clear? It still ends up with VAR drawing lines on a freeze frame to see if the lino made a mistake, doesn't it?

It really needs to be automated but like anything its never going to be 100% bang on.

My issue is VAR team can freeze frames when they think its right and it could be wrong in other words they can get the result they want with no comeback.

Take a look at Spurs v Liverpool game and tell me that game wasnt rigged that Diaz goal wasnt a mistake it was outright cheating.

IMO its taken too much away from the game as even with it bad calls are made and we know this as they say "sorry" a few times !

[Notts78]

It really needs to be automated but like anything its never going to be 100% bang on.

My issue is VAR team can freeze frames when they think its right and it could be wrong in other words they can get the result they want with no comeback.

Take a look at Spurs v Liverpool game and tell me that game wasnt rigged that Diaz goal wasnt a mistake it was outright cheating.

IMO its taken too much away from the game as even with it bad calls are made and we know this as they say "sorry" a few times !

It wasn’t cheating at all. If you listen to the audio of that situation the error comes from VAR advising incorrectly that the on field decision was correct - as they thought the on field decision was to award the goal not realising offside had been given. The annoying thing about that situation is they realised very very quickly they had ****ed up and for some ridiculous reason couldn’t stop the game and gone ‘sorry lads, mis communication - goal stands’.

[Old_pie]

Having watched the cup games and the PL highlights regularly the only conclusion that I can come to is that we do not know how to use technology effectively in this country, and that doesn't just apply to football.

It's as if those running things are brain dead.

And how that Maguire can just push an attacker from behind and bundle him off the ball and repeatedly get away with it makes me think I'm watching American Football not UK football. Shoulder to shoulder was understandable and even then not when it is a battering ram, and I hope Macca never has to come across someone like that with the current standard of refereeing.

[Notts78]

The standard of refereeing will never improve whilst a/ grass roots refs get zero support and b/ until all the abuse stops.
Like footballers, referees make mistakes. However, for some reason refs cop it more than anyone else.
Having helped run an u9’s and u11’s teams this season and occasionally reffed games and can honestly say it’s the worst experience in football. Having played football for 35 plus years I have never encountered the **** I got from kids or parents. I did it for free and did to the best of my none qualified referee ability based on how I play the game. Without l a referee we have no game. It’s that simple.
Anyone who thinks it’s an easy gig, I suggest you go to your local kids or Sunday pub team and offer your services. I can honestly say you will regret it.
I like the fact that we don’t have VAR - you know decisions will go for and against you and hope that over the course of a season it balances itself out.

[legs77]

It wasn’t cheating at all. If you listen to the audio of that situation the error comes from VAR advising incorrectly that the on field decision was correct - as they thought the on field decision was to award the goal not realising offside had been given. The annoying thing about that situation is they realised very very quickly they had ****ed up and for some ridiculous reason couldn’t stop the game and gone ‘sorry lads, mis communication - goal stands’.

Look at the two red cards as well and if it wasnt cheating why is Darren England not allowed on Liverpool games then ?

How hard is it to not play on until you are sure ?

Im firmly in the camp some games are rigged.

You have Michael Oliver and his 3 mates doing a gig in UAE now he may not cheat but £30-50k to ref one game is lots of dough.

Which football team is the only one not to have a VAR call be looked at and go against them ? A clue they are owned by UAE.

[Thordardaughter]

Look at the two red cards as well and if it wasnt cheating why is Darren England not allowed on Liverpool games then ?

How hard is it to not play on until you are sure ?

Im firmly in the camp some games are rigged.

You have Michael Oliver and his 3 mates doing a gig in UAE now he may not cheat but £30-50k to ref one game is lots of dough.

Which football team is the only one not to have a VAR call be looked at and go against them ? A clue they are owned by UAE.

Are you referring to Man City ?
I’m pretty sure that statement isn’t true ??