Hospitality Prices

[islaydarkblue]

Financial matters are being taken care of ATM by Keyes, and Nelms.

Other than knocking down 2 stands, what can the owners do about Dens? Please take into account that there is no potential to generate non football money at Dens.

Please no Isle of Man, interest rates, bankrolling, volunteer, presentations, etc.

They could stop wasting money renting the suite of offices at Gardyne and return to using Dens Park during the week. The hospitality lounges at Dens Park could be used during the week for lunches which happens at McDiarmid Park.

[islaydarkblue]

You?re surely not blaming the Americans for alienating our support?

We?ve got a support that have got used to watching football on a fire stick. Mostly moaning ****s, who wouldn?t go if it was a tenner.

I don?t know one person who has a fractured relationship with our owners.

They?ve supported every manager, that they?ve appointed.

When the Marrs took over I think they made the adult season ticket price ?90, hence the 23 million debt. That turned out well.

The ?90 season ticket had nothing to do with the ?23 million debt which was caused by Gavin Masterton the Bank of Scotland Chief Executive (2nd in command) letting the owners of Dundee Football Club go daft signing players on ridiculously high wages while the income from home games could not go anywhere near balancing the books.
I remember reading that Peter Marr?s plan was to sign good players and sell them on for large transfer fees, however Bosman scuppered that plan.
Gavin Masterton was a Dunfermline Athletic FC supporter and he gave them a loan which had to be repaid when Gavin Masterton was 100 years old.
This came to light when Dunfermline Athletic FC went into administration about ten years ago.

[islaydarkblue]

Quick question.

If not Nelms, who do you think is alienating the support?

Because something's driven them to Firesticks. Could Premiership season ticket prices in a Championship season have been one factor? Could a CEO that treats them with total disdain be a factor?

I've never felt so isolated from the club in my 55 years plus of following it - no news, no information, no feel good factor, lies (IMO) about a new stadium, no progress on the field with one step forward and two back for a decade or more, a CEO who's on record as stating it doesn't matter which division we're playing in. It just doesn't scream that the club is mine or ours any more - it's his and he doesn't give a sh1t about it or us (IMO).

I totally agree with everything you have posted.
It will be interesting to see if any of Nelms?s spies are reading the posts on this topic.

[islaydarkblue]

Apart from reading stuff on here, I don?t know anyone who?s been alienated by Nelms.

Agree that season tickets are too expensive, but that?s the same all over Scottish football.

He did say that the new stadium wasn?t dependent on what league were playing in, slightly different from your take.

I?ll believe the new stadium when I see it, but I can?t fathom why they would spend so much money, with no intention of going ahead. What IYO would they gain from that.

Our crowds have been **** for years, and long before the Americans came in.

We won the league cup in 73, and the week later we had approx 6,000 against Motherwell,

When Gellatly, Marr, Cook, Dixon, Dee4 life we?re running the club, it felt no different from now.

Steve Martin told me in the Penman Lounge several months after he had been forced to resign as a director of Dundee Football Club Limited that he had a meeting with Tim Keyes and Tim Keyes couldn?t understand why John (Nelms) wanted Steve Martin off the DFC Ltd board of directors.
At present Nelms needs Bob Hynd?s firm of architects for the plans for Community Trust complex and football pitches at Riverside.
Once this complex is built and in use I would not be surprised to see Bob Hynd resigning as a DFC Ltd director as Nelms no longer needs him.
Bob Hynd presented Cammy Kerr with a gift at his testimonial match with no sign of Nelms being there despite him being the managing director of Dundee Football Club Limited.

[islaydarkblue]

Financial matters are being taken care of ATM by Keyes, and Nelms.

Other than knocking down 2 stands, what can the owners do about Dens? Please take into account that there is no potential to generate non football money at Dens.

Please no Isle of Man, interest rates, bankrolling, volunteer, presentations, etc.

Every Dundee supporter including yourself should be very concerned if directors of Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited do not repay the loan they received from Soho Green with the Dens Park Stadium put up as security for their loan.
Interestingly Nelms signed and dated the loan application on behalf of Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited for their loan from Soho Green on 14th September 2023 when John Bennett still held the title deeds of Dens Park.
In my opinion John Nelms submitted a fraudulent loan application form on 14th September 2023 to Soho Green on behalf of Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited (DBPHL) as DBPHL did not hold the title deeds of Dens Park on 14th September 2023. The full details of the loan application form is in the Charges section of Dark Blue Property Holdings Limited on the Companies House website including the name and signature of the independent witness.

[jdfc]

What funds did they squander.

You were probably playing golf at the time and not attending Dens or you would have seen it

[jdfc]

Steve Martin told me in the Penman Lounge several months after he had been forced to resign as a director of Dundee Football Club Limited that he had a meeting with Tim Keyes and Tim Keyes couldn?t understand why John (Nelms) wanted Steve Martin off the DFC Ltd board of directors.
At present Nelms needs Bob Hynd?s firm of architects for the plans for Community Trust complex and football pitches at Riverside.
Once this complex is built and in use I would not be surprised to see Bob Hynd resigning as a DFC Ltd director as Nelms no longer needs him.
Bob Hynd presented Cammy Kerr with a gift at his testimonial match with no sign of Nelms being there despite him being the managing director of Dundee Football Club Limited.

Leaky Martin had the name for a reason

[Deeranged]

Leaky Martin had the name for a reason

Steve Martin - a Dundee fan with the club at heart.

Meanwhile John Nelms...........................

[islaydarkblue]

Leaky Martin had the name for a reason

Please explain.

[islaydarkblue]

You were probably playing golf at the time and not attending Dens or you would have seen it

I gave up playing golf in November 2010.
I know that the Dee4life board of directors during the Admin 2 season made the mistake of emptying their bank account and handing over the balance of it (?100k) when it was not clear funds.
I will ask again.
What funds did they squander.