Careless Tories!

[Andy_Faber]

Age is only one aspect of demographics and I’m sure we aren’t collectively dismissing the opinions, beliefs and knowledge of all those under 35. As I say, I know absolutely nothing about Tik Tok, not even entirely sure what it is, but do we know anything else about the nature of those who use it?

When I've attempted to talk about other demographics it hasn't gone well, hence just talking age (still at risk!). However, here's an example of the impact of some of the hate on that's around. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/n...k/71585779007/ My advice to my daughter is to understand the issue from reliable sources and try not to offer an opinion when she can avoid it. A lot of her friends have very entrenched and utterly ill-informed opinions

[swaledale]

When I've attempted to talk about other demographics it hasn't gone well, hence just talking age (still at risk!). However, here's an example of the impact of some of the hate on that's around. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/n...k/71585779007/ My advice to my daughter is to understand the issue from reliable sources and try not to offer an opinion when she can avoid it. A lot of her friends have very entrenched and utterly ill-informed opinions

That applies across age groups and indeed different socio economic groups, some very entrenched and ill informed opinion, much from people who should know better. Sound advice in terms of where one gets one information, to which I'd add and not just from sources which seem to confirm ones own views whatever they maybe.

[Geoff Parkstone]

That applies across age groups and indeed different socio economic groups, some very entrenched and ill informed opinion, much from people who should know better. Sound advice in terms of where one gets one information, to which I'd add and not just from sources which seem to confirm ones own views whatever they maybe.

I guess that last line explains why you never seek information from the Grauniad

[Ramshank72]

Agreed, I only trust what I read on a Derby County forum, YouTube, and the Metro.

[swaledale]

Apparently the person who held the post of PM for the shortest time in history (AKA Thick Liz) is backing Trump in the US election saying there needs to be a conservative (small c) administration to fight repressive regimes such as Russia etc.

This begs several questions.

1. Does she actually know what Trump's view on Ukraine is (he has said he wants to stop US military aid)
2. Does she understand US Politics? (The Democrats are compared to the UK a conservative party!)
3. WTF goes on in that head of hers?

[ramAnag]

Been advised, by a reliable and usually knowledgeable and responsible source, that the main players/investigators in the ongoing Covid enquiry (eg Hugo Keith etc) are likely to be charging/receiving up to £1000 per hour (!!!) for performing their roles.

Seems insane to me, especially seeing as all we seem to be discovering is - as we already suspected - that the politicians concerned are a bunch of lying ba*tards only interested in covering their own backs.

Can it possibly be true?

[Andy_Faber]

Been advised, by a reliable and usually knowledgeable and responsible source, that the main players/investigators in the ongoing Covid enquiry (eg Hugo Keith etc) are likely to be charging/receiving up to £1000 per hour (!!!) for performing their roles.

Seems insane to me, especially seeing as all we seem to be discovering is - as we already suspected - that the politicians concerned are a bunch of lying ba*tards only interested in covering their own backs.

Can it possibly be true?

Not sure what you’re objecting to here rA, the hourly rate only (which I think is industry standard albeit obscene) or the fact it’s being expended asking questions of politicians?

[ramAnag]

Not sure what you’re objecting to here rA, the hourly rate only (which I think is industry standard albeit obscene) or the fact it’s being expended asking questions of politicians?

More of a query - ‘can it possibly be true?’ - than an ‘objection’, AF. Now that you’ve suggested that this is an ‘industry standard’ however I’d be surprised if the vast majority don’t object to such obscenity.

I’m probably being naive about such matters, but I’m assuming the taxpayer is picking up this burden and have to ask...how can such fees possibly be justified especially in circumstances such as these?

[Andy_Faber]

More of a query - ‘can it possibly be true?’ - than an ‘objection’, AF. Now that you’ve suggested that this is an ‘industry standard’ however I’d be surprised if the vast majority don’t object to such obscenity.

I’m probably being naive about such matters, but I’m assuming the taxpayer is picking up this burden and have to ask...how can such fees possibly be justified especially in circumstances such as these?

I’ve just looked at the charge rates for a bit of legal work I’m involved in. It’s a fixed price job thank God, but rates for any ‘extra work’ could attract a fee of up to £750 per hour, and that excludes some of the partners in the LLP who may well charge more. One could argue that those rates are out of proportion to their value to society but they are pretty typical - as a KC, maybe old Hugo is actually providing his services at a discount!

[MadAmster]

I’ve just looked at the charge rates for a bit of legal work I’m involved in. It’s a fixed price job thank God, but rates for any ‘extra work’ could attract a fee of up to £750 per hour, and that excludes some of the partners in the LLP who may well charge more. One could argue that those rates are out of proportion to their value to society but they are pretty typical - as a KC, maybe old Hugo is actually providing his services at a discount!

AF, at those prices I'd want him to bring the sunshine band as well