Covid 19 and the Media

[Trickytreesreds]

Do you mean the same Tim Davie who has been on the BBC executive for 12 years and also Director General twice and done feck all about the things he's talking about doing now Despite being paid £642,000 in 2019 no wonder he supports paying for licences

Actually MR that's not strictly true. He was chief executive of BBC Studios. That commercial side of the BBC that they don't like to talk about, that makes money commercially and dabbles in advertising(cough). In fact it made £1.4 billion on top of the tax robbery license fee.
He has actually said the BBC could raise much more money than it does on its own, and isn't in favour of the license fee.
However, what he says and what he does, will be remained to be seen.

[Andy_Faber]

I wasn’t actually talking about the BBC in terms of neutrality...but it seemed fairly clear that the Guardian and Mirror are left leaning, the Independent relatively devoid of bias and the Express, Mail, Sun, Times and Telegraph all right leaning...or have I got that wrong?

I’m not sure what you mean about BBC employees and contractors offering political opinions. I haven’t seen the likes of Louise Minchin, Dan Walker, Naga Munchetty or Charlie Stayt ever doing that, but clearly those on more political or satirical programmes are paid to do precisely that, aren’t they?

You got that list right rA, but you made an assumption that 'we' all agreed with that. In terms of a simple count I might agree, but that ignores the influence of each of those media outlets and also ignores the fact that its not a full list, especially as so many folk now get their news online.

The offering of political/putting the world to rights opinions on twitter etc relates in particular (because its him in the news but not just him) to Gary Lineker, who has been outspoken on social media for some time, heavily politically biased and the source of a lot of complaints therefrom. I must admit as a non twitter user and having no interest in him as a broadcaster I wasn't especially aware til recently, but there you go. My guess is this one will run and run, GL has brushed off the edict and says it doesn't apply to him, we shall see.

[mistaram]

If you mean he gets paid too much, too right that’s outrageous

No I mean why start saying he is going to change things when he's had 12yrs to do it . Yes trying to make out he's the new on the block. Well he isn't he's part of the reason the BBC are under government pressure to change

[mistaram]

You got that list right rA, but you made an assumption that 'we' all agreed with that. In terms of a simple count I might agree, but that ignores the influence of each of those media outlets and also ignores the fact that its not a full list, especially as so many folk now get their news online.

The offering of political/putting the world to rights opinions on twitter etc relates in particular (because its him in the news but not just him) to Gary Lineker, who has been outspoken on social media for some time, heavily politically biased and the source of a lot of complaints therefrom. I must admit as a non twitter user and having no interest in him as a broadcaster I wasn't especially aware til recently, but there you go. My guess is this one will run and run, GL has brushed off the edict and says it doesn't apply to him, we shall see.

Andy there is no chance they will sack Lineker the thought of him walking straight into another presenting job with another tv channel will stop that happening . People can't stand the fact that somebody so rich and famous should actually be a socialist ,it's nothing to do with being a BBC employee

[mistaram]

Actually MR that's not strictly true. He was chief executive of BBC Studios. That commercial side of the BBC that they don't like to talk about, that makes money commercially and dabbles in advertising(cough). In fact it made £1.4 billion on top of the tax robbery license fee.
He has actually said the BBC could raise much more money than it does on its own, and isn't in favour of the license fee.
However, what he says and what he does, will be remained to be seen.

Not true in August 2020 Tim Davie says " I'm in support of the licence fee as opposed to a Netflix style subscription fee "

[Trickytreesreds]

Andy there is no chance they will sack Lineker the thought of him walking straight into another presenting job with another tv channel will stop that happening . People can't stand the fact that somebody so rich and famous should actually be a socialist ,it's nothing to do with being a BBC employee

I disagree.
They did it with Clarkson because his offence went against their WOKE and political correct beliefs.
But in effect they destroyed one of their most successful programmes ever, as the other two quit in support.
They moved to Amazon and the BBC's answer was Chris Evans.

But they did it, knowing that effectively Top Gear was finished.

[Trickytreesreds]

Not true in August 2020 Tim Davie says " I'm in support of the licence fee as opposed to a Netflix style subscription fee "

Like I said, what he said and does. He has said it before and you are omitting his wages were paid out of a private segment of the BBC.
He has had a pay cut to step into his current role.
he promised to reel in the left wing opinions of its employees etc. Not a chance in hell will he achieve that.
Neutality is now impossible at the Biased Broadcasting Corporation

[ramAnag]

You got that list right rA, but you made an assumption that 'we' all agreed with that. In terms of a simple count I might agree, but that ignores the influence of each of those media outlets and also ignores the fact that its not a full list, especially as so many folk now get their news online.

The offering of political/putting the world to rights opinions on twitter etc relates in particular (because its him in the news but not just him) to Gary Lineker, who has been outspoken on social media for some time, heavily politically biased and the source of a lot of complaints therefrom. I must admit as a non twitter user and having no interest in him as a broadcaster I wasn't especially aware til recently, but there you go. My guess is this one will run and run, GL has brushed off the edict and says it doesn't apply to him, we shall see.

If I’ve made such an ‘assumption’, I apologise. Not really sure how the list, or the conclusion, can be argued with, or what difference getting news ‘on line’ makes...read the Guardian or the Express ‘online’ and any ‘bias’ surely remains the same as the printed editions.

Not sure either why Gary Lineker should be criticised for having political opinions. He’s just a football presenter and we all have some degree of political opinion...why shouldn’t he express his? If he were a newsreader and made political comments on news stories it would be different.

[mistaram]

I disagree.
They did it with Clarkson because his offence went against their WOKE and political correct beliefs.
But in effect they destroyed one of their most successful programmes ever, as the other two quit in support.
They moved to Amazon and the BBC's answer was Chris Evans.

But they did it, knowing that effectively Top Gear was finished.

If they sack Lineker I will be the first on here to apologise ,but it will not happen

[mistaram]

You got that list right rA, but you made an assumption that 'we' all agreed with that. In terms of a simple count I might agree, but that ignores the influence of each of those media outlets and also ignores the fact that its not a full list, especially as so many folk now get their news online.

The offering of political/putting the world to rights opinions on twitter etc relates in particular (because its him in the news but not just him) to Gary Lineker, who has been outspoken on social media for some time, heavily politically biased and the source of a lot of complaints therefrom. I must admit as a non twitter user and having no interest in him as a broadcaster I wasn't especially aware til recently, but there you go. My guess is this one will run and run, GL has brushed off the edict and says it doesn't apply to him, we shall see.

What Lineker actually said was " I thought only Twitter could ban you from Twitter " but don't let the truth get in the way