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    Quote Originally Posted by Jampie View Post
    For once I agree with Andy 100% on one of his posts!
    Out of all the drivel he's written at last he says something sensible and true.

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    I see Finland has joined NATO that’s pi##ed on Putins strawberries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i961pie View Post
    I see Finland has joined NATO that’s pi##ed on Putins strawberries.
    100% self inflicted wound there. Finland had no intention whatsoever of joining NATO until Putin invaded Ukraine (again) in feb last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jampie View Post
    100% self inflicted wound there. Finland had no intention whatsoever of joining NATO until Putin invaded Ukraine (again) in feb last year.
    Additionally: Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Denmark struck a deal to run their 200+ advanced fighter jets as a single fleet, creating a new headache for Russia

    https://www.businessinsider.com/norw...23-3?r=US&IR=T

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    Looks like we could be on the verge of a Military Coup in Russia...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66005256

    The head of Russia's Wagner mercenary group has vowed to "go all the way" to topple Russia's military leadership, hours after the Kremlin accused him of "armed rebellion".

    Yevgeny Prigozhin said his Wagner fighters had crossed the border from Ukraine into Russia, entering the city of Rostov-on-Don.

    Mr Prigozhin said his men would destroy anyone who stood in their way.

    The local governor urged citizens there to keep calm and stay indoors.

    Mr Prigozhin claimed that his forces had shot down a Russian military helicopter that "opened fire on a civilian convoy". He did not give a location and the assertion could not be immediately verified.

    The Wagner Group is a private army of mercenaries that has been fighting alongside the regular Russian army in Ukraine.

    Tension has been growing between them over how the war has been fought, with Mr Prigozhin launching vocal criticisms of Russia's military leadership in recent months.

    On Friday, the 62-year-old mercenary leader accused the military of launching a deadly missile strike on his troops and vowed to punish them. He did not provide evidence.

    Authorities have denied the strike and demanded he halt his "illegal actions".

    Follow live updates
    What is Russia's Wagner Group of mercenaries?
    Mr Prigozhin said the "evil" in Russia's military leadership must be stopped and vowed to "march for justice".

    "Those who killed our lads, and tens of thousands of lives of Russian soldiers [in the war in Ukraine] will be punished," he said in an audio message posted to the social media platform Telegram.

    "I ask you not to resist. Anyone who does will be considered a threat and destroyed. That goes for any checkpoints and aviation on our way.

    "Presidential power, the government, the police and Russian guard will work as usual.

    "This is not a military coup, but a march of justice. Our actions do not interfere with the troops in any way."

    Russia's President Vladimir Putin is receiving round-the-clock updates on the situation, his spokesman said.

    Security in Moscow was stepped up on Friday night at prime locations in Moscow, including government buildings and transport facilities, Russia's state-owned news agency TASS said.

    The governor of Russia's Lipetsk region is also asking residents not to travel south.

    Lipetsk is around 280km (175 miles) north-east of the nearest Ukrainian border, and more than 500km north of Rostov.

    Writing on Telegram, Igor Artamonov said security measures in the region are being tightened, with a particular focus on protecting critical infrastructure facilities.

    In a tweet late on Friday, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence said simply: "We are watching."

    The White House said it was monitoring the situation and would consult with US allies.

    Gen Sergei Surovikin, the deputy head of the Russian forces in Ukraine, whose leadership Mr Prigozhin has praised in the past, called on him to "stop the convoys and return them to their bases".

    "We are of one blood, we are warriors," he said in a video. "You mustn't play into the enemy's hands at a time that is difficult for our country."

    Another senior commander, Lt Gen Vladimir Alekseyev, described the Wagner chief's actions as "a stab in the back of the country and the president".

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    Quote Originally Posted by keldsyke View Post
    What is Russia's Wagner Group of mercenaries?
    The clue's in the question isn't it. They're mercenaries. They might be working for you today, but tomorrow they might switch and work for someone else if the rewards offered are greater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keldsyke View Post
    Looks like we could be on the verge of a Military Coup in Russia...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66005256

    The head of Russia's Wagner mercenary group has vowed to "go all the way" to topple Russia's military leadership, hours after the Kremlin accused him of "armed rebellion".

    Yevgeny Prigozhin said his Wagner fighters had crossed the border from Ukraine into Russia, entering the city of Rostov-on-Don.

    Mr Prigozhin said his men would destroy anyone who stood in their way.

    The local governor urged citizens there to keep calm and stay indoors.

    Mr Prigozhin claimed that his forces had shot down a Russian military helicopter that "opened fire on a civilian convoy". He did not give a location and the assertion could not be immediately verified.

    The Wagner Group is a private army of mercenaries that has been fighting alongside the regular Russian army in Ukraine.

    Tension has been growing between them over how the war has been fought, with Mr Prigozhin launching vocal criticisms of Russia's military leadership in recent months.

    On Friday, the 62-year-old mercenary leader accused the military of launching a deadly missile strike on his troops and vowed to punish them. He did not provide evidence.

    Authorities have denied the strike and demanded he halt his "illegal actions".

    Follow live updates
    What is Russia's Wagner Group of mercenaries?
    Mr Prigozhin said the "evil" in Russia's military leadership must be stopped and vowed to "march for justice".

    "Those who killed our lads, and tens of thousands of lives of Russian soldiers [in the war in Ukraine] will be punished," he said in an audio message posted to the social media platform Telegram.

    "I ask you not to resist. Anyone who does will be considered a threat and destroyed. That goes for any checkpoints and aviation on our way.

    "Presidential power, the government, the police and Russian guard will work as usual.

    "This is not a military coup, but a march of justice. Our actions do not interfere with the troops in any way."

    Russia's President Vladimir Putin is receiving round-the-clock updates on the situation, his spokesman said.

    Security in Moscow was stepped up on Friday night at prime locations in Moscow, including government buildings and transport facilities, Russia's state-owned news agency TASS said.

    The governor of Russia's Lipetsk region is also asking residents not to travel south.

    Lipetsk is around 280km (175 miles) north-east of the nearest Ukrainian border, and more than 500km north of Rostov.

    Writing on Telegram, Igor Artamonov said security measures in the region are being tightened, with a particular focus on protecting critical infrastructure facilities.

    In a tweet late on Friday, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence said simply: "We are watching."

    The White House said it was monitoring the situation and would consult with US allies.

    Gen Sergei Surovikin, the deputy head of the Russian forces in Ukraine, whose leadership Mr Prigozhin has praised in the past, called on him to "stop the convoys and return them to their bases".

    "We are of one blood, we are warriors," he said in a video. "You mustn't play into the enemy's hands at a time that is difficult for our country."

    Another senior commander, Lt Gen Vladimir Alekseyev, described the Wagner chief's actions as "a stab in the back of the country and the president".
    BBC? That is just MSM Western propaganda. I'm sure everything is actually fine. Both sides use propaganda you know. The BBC is essentially the same as Rossiya24 or Tass at the end of the day.

    Russia is a totally normal country, just like the UK or US. So normal in fact we should've invited them into Nato!

    Deifnitely not a backward, ultra-corrupt, hyper-nationalistic **** show which has still not come out of the feudal system, never mind the imperial age.

    The invasion of Ukraine is going completely according to plan. Any day now the troop surge will allow Russia to march forward and claim a crushing victory. What's that? They're all dead? OK so the next surge then. Or perhaps the one after that. Definitely imminent Russian victory though. Any time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    BBC? That is just MSM Western propaganda. I'm sure everything is actually fine. Both sides use propaganda you know. The BBC is essentially the same as Rossiya24 or Tass at the end of the day.

    Russia is a totally normal country, just like the UK or US. So normal in fact we should've invited them into Nato!

    Deifnitely not a backward, ultra-corrupt, hyper-nationalistic **** show which has still not come out of the feudal system, never mind the imperial age.

    The invasion of Ukraine is going completely according to plan. Any day now the troop surge will allow Russia to march forward and claim a crushing victory. What's that? They're all dead? OK so the next surge then. Or perhaps the one after that. Definitely imminent Russian victory though. Any time now.
    Quality!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    BBC? That is just MSM Western propaganda. I'm sure everything is actually fine. Both sides use propaganda you know. The BBC is essentially the same as Rossiya24 or Tass at the end of the day.

    Russia is a totally normal country, just like the UK or US. So normal in fact we should've invited them into Nato!

    Deifnitely not a backward, ultra-corrupt, hyper-nationalistic **** show which has still not come out of the feudal system, never mind the imperial age.

    The invasion of Ukraine is going completely according to plan. Any day now the troop surge will allow Russia to march forward and claim a crushing victory. What's that? They're all dead? OK so the next surge then. Or perhaps the one after that. Definitely imminent Russian victory though. Any time now.
    Haha love it ! Are you andy in disguise..are you annndyyy in disguiiiise !

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchmagpie View Post
    Haha love it ! Are you andy in disguise..are you annndyyy in disguiiiise !
    Quick ! Put your phone away frogpie, mummy woodentops coming.

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