THE Ardley In/Out Thread [Multiple threads merged]

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Not at all.i see as many people upset with ardley as are happy with him.
So you think a good manager sits and watches his team struggle for 45 mins even though he knows why they are struggling and knows how to effect the problem?
Strange but I'm not surprised.

[Killerkline]

Not at all.i see as many people upset with ardley as are happy with him.
So you think a good manager sits and watches his team struggle for 45 mins even though he knows why they are struggling and knows how to effect the problem?
Strange but I'm not surprised.

Is the 2nd part aimed at me?

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Is the 2nd part aimed at me?

I was replying to Laddo

[Davy500]

Typical still not answering the question

[laddo]

i made nothing up, typically you now not standing by the very reasons you blindly follow Ardley
You yourself , even in the paragraph, above, said we have sacked to many managers, so we have to give them more time, because in it has not worked in the past
So therefor even though Ardley was very bad from the start he must be given time, for no other reason than what you said above.
How much time. relegation season, last season, and now this, so that is over 2 and a half seasons, all to see if he would eventually come good??
Back to the original question, as in Ardleys case, we have had to stick with him for more than 2 1/2 seasons, no matter what, even though he is one of the worst mangers, just because we cant keep sacking managers-??

Come on Davy Facts where did I say 3 seasons minimum as you strongly suggest?

Just so you fully understand going forward (it will save us some time) I want Notts managers to have a bare minimum of one full season unless extreme circumstances are involved. That's not being greedy is it that's aiming for normality.Then we can work on getting towards the 14 month average.

I've made my views on the past NA seasons quite clear, but you seem to forget.

He was poor in relegation season , he failed no doubt about it but I don't blame him. I blame Hardy, you disagree. We've been over this. That season Nolan and Kewell also failed, also awful PPG averages.

Last season we had an awful joke of a preseason and started slowly as a result. We finished 3rd and lost a playoff final. So we weren't successful (not many just relegated clubs do go straight back up) but I don't believe that deserved a sacking. This season proper preseason, signed plenty of players no excuses. Promotion or leave.

All sounds very reasonable to me. You have a different view clearly you wanted him sacked after the Swindon cos he was totally to blame for relegation. You wanted him sacked during the bad run last season in the autumn. You wanted him sacked after deservedly losing the playoff final to Halifax.

I disagree and think it's a comical viewpoint as it highlights the issue we've had as a club for far too long but everyone is allowed an opinion.

We just don't need to go over it again. Looks like the owners have made their decision they won't review until the seasons conclusion. I know that's not what you and others wanted but that's the reality. Just be patient wait for him to fail again , he gets asked to clear his desk and you are then happy. New manager time.

[laddo]

Typical still not answering the question

Will answer all questions but need you to show me where I said minimum 3 seasons. You are getting into a bad habit that I see in others. You can't just make things up and expect it not to be highlight#bucksfizz

I'm gonna leave you now to think about that a little before replying. If you just made it up then just admit it and we can move on.

[Davy500]

Will answer all questions but need you to show me where I said minimum 3 seasons. You are getting into a bad habit that I see in others. You can't just make things up and expect it not to be highlight#bucksfizz

I'm gonna leave you now to think about that a little before replying. If you just made it up then just admit it and we can move on.

A good try Laddo, to avoid admitting , that you have no other reason for blindly following Ardley, than we have sacked to many mangers before, so he should be given more time - how has that worked out for us ??

In a sense that is what you have said, 2 full seasons, and 30 games from League 2, is that not nearly 3 seasons?? Why not sack him after his first 12 games when the writing was on the wall, glowing like a neon sign, Ardley is crap, why not after Swindon, why not after Harragate, why not after Dover etc, i will tell you why cause of your mantra crap - give him more time, we cant keep sacking managers
Any club can and should sack incompetent Managers, Mansfield seem to be doing well after sacking coughlan , who record of 4 wins from 27, was actually better than Ardleys 4 wins from 29 ( 1 in 12 at Notts, and 3 from last 17 at Wimbledon )
And I and many others will not forget the relegation season, because it was on Ardleys watch, and the negative, defensive tactics that relegated us, are the same ones 2 years later that will keep us in the national League i

[laddo]

Neither can I, the most momentous, gut wrenching season in our entire history and people are still referring back to it almost 2 full seasons later?


A worrying trend.

Relegation? I sure hope not, even the person with the pointiest of pitchforks on here is expecting that Gump!

It was indeed gut wrenching, a complete sh!tshow, strangely comical at times, definitely embarrassing to a whole new level to what we've witnessed before and perhaps somewhat inevitable.

Alas you can't change the past only the future.

COYP

[countygump]

Relegation? I sure hope not, even the person with the pointiest of pitchforks on here is expecting that Gump!

It was indeed gut wrenching, a complete sh!tshow, strangely comical at times, definitely embarrassing to a whole new level to what we've witnessed before and perhaps somewhat inevitable.

Alas you can't change the past only the future.

COYP

True but someone once said, ''A wise man will use his past to guide his future''. Actually it was me who said it cos I just made the 4ker up, but that's bye the bye. Ardley will forever be known as the manager who oversaw our relegation from the FL. Whether it be 2 seasons later or 20 seasons later. If he redeems himself this season, then fair do's. Whatever you may think, Laddo, Ardley is not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty Del-Boy-a-like.

[Ayeayeskipper]

True but someone once said, ''A wise man will use his past to guide his future''. Actually it was me who said it cos I just made the 4ker up, but that's bye the bye. Ardley will forever be known as the manager who oversaw our relegation from the FL. Whether it be 2 seasons later or 20 seasons later. If he redeems himself this season, then fair do's. Whatever you may think, Laddo, Ardley is not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty Del-Boy-a-like.

Gumpfucius.