THE Ardley In/Out Thread [Multiple threads merged]

[MagpieMike]

True but someone once said, ''A wise man will use his past to guide his future''. Actually it was me who said it cos I just made the 4ker up, but that's bye the bye. Ardley will forever be known as the manager who oversaw our relegation from the FL. Whether it be 2 seasons later or 20 seasons later. If he redeems himself this season, then fair do's. Whatever you may think, Laddo, Ardley is not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty Del-Boy-a-like.

You just couldn’t make it up. We are in the play off places with tons of games in hand, with Ardley assembling a decent team, and people still want him out. Fortunately we now have sensible owners who probably don’t read this thread. Ardley was in charge when we were relegated, but that doesn’t make him solely responsible. The Club was in a shambles on and off the pitch. He is likely to be remembered as the manager who built stability at the Club after years of caos. Hopefully promotion is not far away, and then we can kick on.

[Elite_Pie]

You just couldn’t make it up. We are in the play off places with tons of games in hand, with Ardley assembling a decent team, and people still want him out. Fortunately we now have sensible owners who probably don’t read this thread. Ardley was in charge when we were relegated, but that doesn’t make him solely responsible. The Club was in a shambles on and off the pitch.

That's not quite the picture you painted at the time. After we beat Mansfield, you said you had no relegation concerns and that you expected us to finish in mid-table.

[countygump]

You just couldn’t make it up. We are in the play off places with tons of games in hand, with Ardley assembling a decent team, and people still want him out. Fortunately we now have sensible owners who probably don’t read this thread. Ardley was in charge when we were relegated, but that doesn’t make him solely responsible. The Club was in a shambles on and off the pitch. He is likely to be remembered as the manager who built stability at the Club after years of caos. Hopefully promotion is not far away, and then we can kick on.

I'm no great fan of Ardley, that's true, Mike but I'm not sure where I mentioned in my post that I wanted 'him out', but ne'er mind. Never let it be said that I got in the way of a good rant.

As for forever being remembered for the manager who got us relegated from the FL. Do you honestly think he won't be?

Other than the Pavis years and possibly most of the Dunnet years, this club has been in crisis for the majority of time I've been a supporter. We still remained in the FL tho.

[SwalePie]

Other than the Pavis years and possibly most of the Dunnet years, this club has been in crisis for the majority of time I've been a supporter. We still remained in the FL tho.

Yep, overall the Chairmen always have set the tone and must take a large share of the blame or plaudits.

[laddo]

i made nothing up, typically you now not standing by the very reasons you blindly follow Ardley
You yourself , even in the paragraph, above, said we have sacked to many managers, so we have to give them more time, because in it has not worked in the past
So therefor even though Ardley was very bad from the start he must be given time, for no other reason than what you said above.
How much time. relegation season, last season, and now this, so that is over 2 and a half seasons, all to see if he would eventually come good??
Back to the original question, as in Ardleys case, we have had to stick with him for more than 2 1/2 seasons, no matter what, even though he is one of the worst mangers, just because we cant keep sacking managers-??

So in other words I never said any manager should have a minimum of 2-3 seasons. You just made that up, disappointing.

If we had sacked him after his first 12 games that would have meant we would have had at least 4 different managers in a single season! Read that back to yourself and think I wonder whether that would have guaranteed safety? Lol. Also remember the chairman had massively overspent, run out of money was soon to put the club up for sale so how do expect Hardy to pay off Ardley (like he had to with Nolan and Kewell) and then pay for a new management team to come in and rescue us? Magic beans?

I've comprehensively answered your question, if the relegation season hadn't have been such a disaster from start to finish and we hadn't have been relegated then Ardley would never have had 2.5 seasons.

Don't forget we had 3 managers that season, and we changed owners and entered Non league. That isn't the norm for any club, that's part of the reason he's had as long as he had IMO.

Hardy couldn't afford to sack him, the cookie jar was empty. The only option was the Danes sacked him as soon as they took over. They didn't. Since that decision he hasn't descwred to be sacked in their opinion and many Notts fans.

If he fails this season then he goes, why can't you be patient? We've wasted so many years and seasons in the past with comical chopping and changing of managers what's one more wasted season?

[irishpete]

So in other words I never said any manager should have a minimum of 2-3 seasons. You just made that up, disappointing.

If we had sacked him after his first 12 games that would have meant we would have had at least 4 different managers in a single season! Read that back to yourself and think I wonder whether that would have guaranteed safety? Lol. Also remember the chairman had massively overspent, run out of money was soon to put the club up for sale so how do expect Hardy to pay off Ardley (like he had to with Nolan and Kewell) and then pay for a new management team to come in and rescue us? Magic beans?

I've comprehensively answered your question, if the relegation season hadn't have been such a disaster from start to finish and we hadn't have been relegated then Ardley would never have had 2.5 seasons.

Don't forget we had 3 managers that season, and we changed owners and entered Non league. That isn't the norm for any club, that's part of the reason he's had as long as he had IMO.

Hardy couldn't afford to sack him, the cookie jar was empty. The only option was the Danes sacked him as soon as they took over. They didn't. Since that decision he hasn't descwred to be sacked in their opinion and many Notts fans.

If he fails this season then he goes, why can't you be patient? We've wasted so many years and seasons in the past with comical chopping and changing of managers what's one more wasted season?

Your good at making things up, still waiting for your proof about me on the recent match freds before ko

[Davy500]

So in other words I never said any manager should have a minimum of 2-3 seasons. You just made that up, disappointing.

If we had sacked him after his first 12 games that would have meant we would have had at least 4 different managers in a single season! Read that back to yourself and think I wonder whether that would have guaranteed safety? Lol. Also remember the chairman had massively overspent, run out of money was soon to put the club up for sale so how do expect Hardy to pay off Ardley (like he had to with Nolan and Kewell) and then pay for a new management team to come in and rescue us? Magic beans?

I've comprehensively answered your question, if the relegation season hadn't have been such a disaster from start to finish and we hadn't have been relegated then Ardley would never have had 2.5 seasons.

Don't forget we had 3 managers that season, and we changed owners and entered Non league. That isn't the norm for any club, that's part of the reason he's had as long as he had IMO.

Hardy couldn't afford to sack him, the cookie jar was empty. The only option was the Danes sacked him as soon as they took over. They didn't. Since that decision he hasn't descwred to be sacked in their opinion and many Notts fans.

If he fails this season then he goes, why can't you be patient? We've wasted so many years and seasons in the past with comical chopping and changing of managers what's one more wasted season?

The other managers did not relegate , Ardley did .. Ardley relegated us , not the chairman, not the other managers, Ardley . And better us having 4 managers that season and being in league 2

Why should we be patient, we are getting sick of this drivel, every match, negative and defensive football played out the back, even today against Havent & W

[SwalePie]

The other managers did not relegate , Ardley did .. Ardley relegated us , not the chairman, not the other managers, Ardley . And better us having 4 managers that season and being in league 2

Why should we be patient, we are getting sick of this drivel, every match, negative and defensive football played out the back, even today against Havent & W

You're obsessed with proving to all and sundry that Ardley is to blame for everything that happens that's bad. How about a little credit for the good to balance things up Davy? You said a few days back that you thought you were being even handed but that seems to have gone back out of the window ever since. If you posted in a more balanced way people would be more prone to consider the negatives you point out more seriously IMHO.

[Davy500]

You're obsessed with proving to all and sundry that Ardley is to blame for everything that happens that's bad. How about a little credit for the good to balance things up Davy? You said a few days back that you thought you were being even handed but that seems to have gone back out of the window ever since. If you posted in a more balanced way people would be more prone to consider the negatives you point out more seriously IMHO.

Well i have to reply to the complete nonsense Laddo puts on here

[i961pie]

Well i have to reply to the complete nonsense Laddo puts on here

Why do you???