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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpies1959 View Post
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    You cannot simply accept the majority opinion on anything - because the majority may yet be wrong.
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    Like climate change. Oh the ironing.
    Dear 1959: You really didn't get the point of my post.

    re Irony: build nuclear power stations for cleaner energy

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    EP you say yourself your gut feeling is that climate change (man made, I assume) is genuine. My gut feeling is that it isn't genuine.
    I do believe the climate is changing as it has done since time began, and it has been cold enough or hot enough in the past to kill off human life, and will no doubt in the future.
    Do you believe if 'Net Zero' or 'Carbon Neutral' is achieved we will be able to keep the world thermostat at the optimum for ever more.
    Carbon levels have risen and lowered in the atmosphere, with no correlation to temperstures, way before human life, giving an uninhabitable climate, so is likely to happen whatever we do to control the level.
    I believe nature is far greater than mankind.
    I see this current hysteria as a means of controlling people. China already have that over their people, so are laughing as they produce cheaper energy using coal.
    This is buying them time to build nuclear power stations for cleaner energy in the future, which is what we should be doing, along side any other form of affordable renewable energy, by which time the country will be under Sharia Law 🤣🤣🤣😋

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpies1959 View Post
    EP you say yourself your gut feeling is that climate change (man made, I assume) is genuine. My gut feeling is that it isn't genuine.
    I do believe the climate is changing as it has done since time began, and it has been cold enough or hot enough in the past to kill off human life, and will no doubt in the future.
    Do you believe if 'Net Zero' or 'Carbon Neutral' is achieved we will be able to keep the world thermostat at the optimum for ever more.
    Carbon levels have risen and lowered in the atmosphere, with no correlation to temperstures, way before human life, giving an uninhabitable climate, so is likely to happen whatever we do to control the level.
    I believe nature is far greater than mankind.
    I see this current hysteria as a means of controlling people. China already have that over their people, so are laughing as they produce cheaper energy using coal.
    This is buying them time to build nuclear power stations for cleaner energy in the future, which is what we should be doing, along side any other form of affordable renewable energy, by which time the country will be under Sharia Law 🤣🤣🤣😋
    You obviously can have your own opinion, but who is it that you feel are controlling people, and for what reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpies1959 View Post
    EP you say yourself your gut feeling is that climate change (man made, I assume) is genuine. My gut feeling is that it isn't genuine.
    I do believe the climate is changing as it has done since time began, and it has been cold enough or hot enough in the past to kill off human life, and will no doubt in the future.
    Do you believe if 'Net Zero' or 'Carbon Neutral' is achieved we will be able to keep the world thermostat at the optimum for ever more.
    Carbon levels have risen and lowered in the atmosphere, with no correlation to temperstures, way before human life, giving an uninhabitable climate, so is likely to happen whatever we do to control the level.
    My honest answer to those questions is 'I don't know'. I really don't have the knowledge to answer yes or no with any confidence. That's why I reverted to gut feeling, which is 60/40 that it's mankind perverting nature. The best gambling lesson I ever learned was 'don't bet more than you can afford to lose'. Whatever the right answer is it won't affect me greatly because I'm now at the arse end of my time on the planet, but I would still like to do what I can to help future generations enjoy what I've enjoyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpies1959 View Post
    Do you believe if 'Net Zero' or 'Carbon Neutral' is achieved we will be able to keep the world thermostat at the optimum for ever more.
    Carbon levels have risen and lowered in the atmosphere, with no correlation to temperstures, way before human life, giving an uninhabitable climate, so is likely to happen whatever we do to control the level.
    Temperature and CO2 massively correlate though.

    It's physically impossible to increase CO2 in the atmosphere and not have it impact temperatures, and we've pumped enough in to raise global temperatures 1-2 degrees already.

    You're absolutely right inasmuch as the climate has changed a lot in the past, but CO2 has been one of the drivers of that, and what's going on with it right now is not part of any natural process. This has been established scientific fact for decades now.

    It's also true that more than a few degrees warmer or colder are likely to be disastrous for civilisation. The human race has been around somewhere between 200k and 300k years, but prior to about 10,000 years ago we had nothing bigger than a grass hut and no agriculture. Then from that time onwards, civilisation and agriculture have sprung up independently in multiple locations and climatic zones on the globe.

    What changed isn't just that the last ice age ended, the climate instability that's characterised the last several hundred thousand years ended. We've had relatively stable rainfall, temperatures and sea levels for 10,000 years.

    I for one don't think we should be rocking that boat more than we absolutely have to, and if/when we decide to deliberately manipulate the climate, say for example to prolong this strange period of stability, we should do it with a careful plan. Unlike the current "unplanned terraforming" which is completely bonkers.

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    Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, the WEF and WHO. The reason is power and control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpies1959 View Post
    Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, the WEF and WHO. The reason is power and control.
    Precisely in what way for instance is Bill Gates exerting his power and control to our detriment?

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    I fear for the future more with these people around than the climate. Just my opinions.

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    He has had a lot to do with covid, vaccines, pharmaceutical companies and Is buying huge areas of farm land along with other governments to reduce meat production, in a supposed attempt to cut nitrogen levels in the atmosphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magpies1959 View Post
    He has had a lot to do with covid, vaccines, pharmaceutical companies and Is buying huge areas of farm land along with other governments to reduce meat production, in a supposed attempt to cut nitrogen levels in the atmosphere.
    I'm not seeing what it is that you are arguing is wrong. Seems to me he has an excess of wealth and is trying to do some good with it. Better than trying to come out with a Windoze 12 anyway.

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