Ashes down under

[BlockD]

They think it's all over.............................................. ...

It was all over when Plunkett and Wood were not selected,and the ECB suspended Stokes,England should have selected Ben,abject surrender

[tomytony]

It was all over when Plunkett and Wood were not selected,and the ECB suspended Stokes,England should have selected Ben,abject surrender

have a like.

ECB only want to see full grounds in England.

Competitiveness comes well behind money making.

The marginalisition of anything but one day and T20 shows that.Employing Bayliss for his one day expertise, regardless of his total lack of knowledge of county cricket emphasises it.

Playing County championship cricket in April, May & September does not allow spinners or pacemen to develop their skills in conditions akin to those in OZ.

If the corporates ever stopped attending tests the ECB would fold.They are a lot like the PL, absolutely no interest in developing the grass roots.

[bulmer1889]

Thank god for BT at least I don't have to watch it TMS is painful enough

Joes punch drunk poor lad,he doesn't think we've been blown away so far ....... I'd call an innings and 41 runs bein blown away, if 35/6 isn't bein blown away I don't know what is,someone needs to give him a slap round the chops to bring him round

It will always be the same down under everyone on TMS has said same England produce players to play in English conditions which is fair comment seein as most ply their trade there playing for the counties,can't ever see that changing,we just don't develop decent spinners or pace bowlers anymore instead of goin abroad to develop their skills they all go off in search of big bucks playing crash bang wallop cricket

[BlockD]

To cheer myself up,I am re-reading my Bodyline book,that's how to win in Australia ,a fantastic ruthless Skipper,fearsome fast bowler backed up by 3 other speed merchants,one of the greatest ever left arm spinners of all time,and batsmen who scored loads of runs,and with the added bonus that the tactics we used to win the Ashes,had them squealing and crying,Douglas Jardine,Harold Larwood and Hedley Verity should be awarded posthumously knighthoods

[tomytony]

To cheer myself up,I am re-reading my Bodyline book,that's how to win in Australia ,a fantastic ruthless Skipper,fearsome fast bowler backed up by 3 other speed merchants,one of the greatest ever left arm spinners of all time,and batsmen who scored loads of runs,and with the added bonus that the tactics we used to win the Ashes,had them squealing and crying,Douglas Jardine,Harold Larwood and Hedley Verity should be awarded posthumously knighthoods

I've read that too. a different era but what a plan which not only beat the Aussies but riled them too.

Not sure it's cheering me up but I've just about finished Jonny B's book about his dad, bought for my birthday.

Very poignant particularly as I knew Bluey and, when flicking through, the first photo I settled on was of Bluey and Phil Carrick on the Lords balcony after the 1987 B&H win.

Jonny says he celebrated like it was Christmas Day, NYE and the Queen's Jubilee all in one. Too true as i know, less than half an hour later I was in the Tavern when the team came in and he ran in and gave me a bear hug which still twinges a bit today.

Happy days- so why have I got a tear in my eye?

[BlockD]

I've read that too. a different era but what a plan which not only beat the Aussies but riled them too.

Not sure it's cheering me up but I've just about finished Jonny B's book about his dad, bought for my birthday.

Very poignant particularly as I knew Bluey and, when flicking through, the first photo I settled on was of Bluey and Phil Carrick on the Lords balcony after the 1987 B&H win.

Jonny says he celebrated like it was Christmas Day, NYE and the Queen's Jubilee all in one. Too true as i know, less than half an hour later I was in the Tavern when the team came in and he ran in and gave me a bear hug which still twinges a bit today.

Happy days- so why have I got a tear in my eye?

I have dropped heavy hints regarding JBs book

[tomytony]

I have dropped heavy hints regarding JBs book

Good luck,it worked for me.

Much better than the normal list of stats you get these days, very poignant.

[BlockD]

Good luck,it worked for me.

Much better than the normal list of stats you get these days, very poignant.

Have you read Harold Larwoods autobiography TT?,I can recommend it,what would we give for a bowler with such extreme pace,makes the 3 Australians,look like medium paced trundlers

[bulmer1889]

Saw they'd won the toss last night and decided against listening early on,sounded like a poor start again they got their act together 2nd session but its too late then. I feel englands missed a trick with this bein effectively a dead rubber we can't keep doin the same things over and over again and expect to achieve a different result

[rodcurrie]

Saw they'd won the toss last night and decided against listening early on,sounded like a poor start again they got their act together 2nd session but its too late then. I feel englands missed a trick with this bein effectively a dead rubber we can't keep doin the same things over and over again and expect to achieve a different result

Well at least you've got a century wi this thread Bully,i hope you've dothed your cap? Don't forget to do doth your cap this afternoon when ya enter BDBL if ya get theeer.Hope your lass and you had a good Xmas mate.UTCB