D Day for Brexit

[Supersub6]

Players in the drama from yesterday mentioned in the media: the Queen, Trump's fake news, Melanie bowling, Tommy Robinson, Gob****e Farage, Miliband crawled out from under his stone, hundreds of thousands of UK protesters (are they all wrong?), sycophantic May and her dreadful bloody husband (WTF?). Jesus Christ, we really are up ****'s Creek, we've lost the outboard, the alligators have nicked the paddle and the hull is holed. Doomed I tell thee!

How are we poor apolitical beings supposed to pull things round when staunch Labour supporters have such a negative attitude to everything?
Answers on a postage stamp please, second class will be quite acceptable.

[sinkov]

I think the UKIP manifesto is still online BT, it certainly used to be anyway. I once had a look through it just out of curiosity, I could find nothing in it that would remotely link them to what I would call 'far right'. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction, or is this just more of your lefty FAKE NEWS ?

Good point on Labour though BT, I do think they have miscalculated badly. For short term gain they decided to oppose what they called a hard Tory Brexit, but as I pointed out on here several times, a hard Tory Brexit is a chimera, it doesn't exist, the Tories are Remainers, Cameron, Osborne, May, Hammond all campaigned to Remain, and the vast majority of Tory MPs are Remainers. Labour seem to have decided to oppose the Government's attempts to negotiate our exit from the EU on the basis that they were opposing the government and that was the job of the opposition, but they weren't taking on the Tory government, May was only carrying out her obligation to honour the referendum result but it wasn't Tory policy to Leave, so Labour weren't opposing the Tories, they were actually taking on the 17.4 million people who voted to Leave.

Now they find themselves on the same Soft Brexit side as the Tories, the Establishment, the Banks, the CBI, the unelected elite of the EU, and in opposition to 17.4 million Leave voters, who have no choice now but to turn to UKIP if they want out of the EU. How on earth did Jeremy, who has never been a fan of the EU, allow this to happen ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Waiting for the opposition to score one last fatal own goal is never a good tactic. Corbyn needs to up his game and quick!

[oldcolner]

So Airbus are miffed because the Government wanted them to announce what the impact of Brexit would be on them to influence public opinion, which they did, (not sure how much of it is true though) only now to find the Government are planning to award a contract for new fighter aircraft to Boeing without any tendering.
That is wrong on so many levels.

[oldcolner]

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This looks BAD
The Lib Dem leadership are facing fury from activists today after Sir Vince Cable and Tim Farron missed a knife-edge Brexit votes last night.
Sir Vince was touring the television studios and sending tweets criticising Theresa May for caving to Jacob Rees-Mogg and accepting his hard Brexiteer amendment. Farron was also missing as he was in Dorset giving a speech about intolerance towards Christians.
Maybe they had paired but with only 3 votes making a difference Your two henchman switch off.

[1959_60]

Yep OC. It IS bad.

They were very poorly advised by our whip.

Having said that, i find it incredible that they didn't prioritise this debate because of it's importance.

Jo Swinson wasn't there either because she is a new mum - but she was paired.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Today our Government will finally "agree" what form Brexit will take. About time too.

I reckon there will be resignations no matter what the decision is.

It seems to me that most people on here favour the Rees-Mogg version - just have a complete break and go it alone.

Finally Theresa May will have to make a decision.

She has just dodged another bullet this evening, this time by just six votes. How much longer can she last?

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[1959_60]

All academic if the EU gives the plan the bums rush BT.

[oldcolner]

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Yes and that looks likely.
Re pairing how does that work for liberal MPs and on Brexit. Is it with a Brexiteer .. or a Tory ... or Labour ?

[1959_60]

I have heard that Jo Swinson paired with a lady MP who was going to abstain. Rumour is that she reneged and voted anyway. As far as I know, MP's who can't make the vote are paired together. Arrangements can be made with MP's who agree that they intend to abstain.

Labour was going to abstain on the vote. This would have resulted in an easy Government victory. But at 9PM (one hour from the vote) they changed their mind.

As a result 2 Lib Dems, 3 SNP and 15 Labour MP's missed the vote.

But I don't think it is good enough. Tim and Vince should have been there.