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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    It isn't based on the performance of individual clubs, which would be a nonsense for the reason you give.

    Tranmere are talking about looking at the tables for the last three years to establish the margin of error for using ppg as a predictor for final league positions (irrespective of the identity of the teams that were in the relevant positions). It looks clumsy and artificial to me.
    This, from Sunderland's local paper, seems to be thinking on the same lines as my interpretation

    "The points-per-game method will be modified to include a 'margin for error calculator' that will account for clubs who, over the past three seasons, have not performed as strongly during their final nine games as expected.

    The complex proposal could see the percentage of total points clubs will receive to account for the final nine unplayed games vary between -5.45 to +6.3% on average."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinkly View Post
    This, from Sunderland's local paper, seems to be thinking on the same lines as my interpretation

    "The points-per-game method will be modified to include a 'margin for error calculator' that will account for clubs who, over the past three seasons, have not performed as strongly during their final nine games as expected.

    The complex proposal could see the percentage of total points clubs will receive to account for the final nine unplayed games vary between -5.45 to +6.3% on average."
    Clutching at straws and moving the goalposts to suit an agenda ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nardendee View Post
    No chance. Not happening. Will find out tomorrow I guess as that is the deadline for ideas. More worried if they vote to play on. There could be some poor teams in the play offs having to play 13 games in 3 1/2 weeks which cannot be allowed to happen. Why are Sunderland kicking off by the way?
    Probably something/one upset them

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    Lyle Taylor: Charlton striker will not play when season resumes, says Lee Bowyer

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52881671

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    Who comes up with these particular figures. You could just make an up. It's complete nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinkly View Post
    This, from Sunderland's local paper, seems to be thinking on the same lines as my interpretation

    "The points-per-game method will be modified to include a 'margin for error calculator' that will account for clubs who, over the past three seasons, have not performed as strongly during their final nine games as expected.

    The complex proposal could see the percentage of total points clubs will receive to account for the final nine unplayed games vary between -5.45 to +6.3% on average."
    Then that is truly mad. A team's performance in one season is not a predictor for their performance in another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    Then that is truly mad. A team's performance in one season is not a predictor for their performance in another.
    How can anyone predict what this seasons squad will do in this division based on what last years squad did in the Championship? We're in a division lower, arguably with a better squad and undeniably better results, relatively speaking!!

    Whereas Tranmere, who are now in a division higher and would appear to be finding it a bit tougher would benefit. Based on their recent successful seasons in lower divisions, they deserve to stay up.......in their eyes!!

    Also, what does "........have not performed as strongly during their final nine games as expected." actually mean??

    We scored loads of goals away against Swansea, Stoke & WBA towards the end of last season (forget the results) that someone may not have predicted. Does that help?

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    Using the Tranmere method, I conclude that, we've finished third behind Liverpool and Man City, and won the FA cup.

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    Ipswich local paper have us still automatically promoted on the basis of Tranmere proposal https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/tranmer...offs-1-6675880
    There is also a link to Tranmere's data/computations - which is as clear as mud to me

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    Another thought on what the hell Tranmere are on about:
    Each club is given a best and worst case scenario based on applying both the same higher margin for error figure and the same lower figure to the additional ppg for each club. So each club has a predicted range of possible points. You then look for "overlaps".
    So Donny, for example, would have a maximum points total of 74.27 on the highest margin for error figure. This would get them into the top 6 if clubs above them had the lower figure applied. So Donny would get into Tranmere's extended play off group. Ipswich even on the highest MFE figure wouldn't be in the top 6, even if the team's above them had the lower MFE adjustment, so they would miss out.
    I fear that it may be even more complicated. Sorry

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