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    Quote Originally Posted by donsdaft View Post
    Remind of the question again
    For someone who likes to point out the faults in other people posts I’ll imagine there’s a me after word remind.

    Okay which of the member states that joined prior to 1999 still use their own currency ?

    Monks pointed out Sweden the rest have taken the euro and the others economies don’t qualify yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basingstokered View Post

    Okay which of the member states that joined prior to 1999 still use their own currency ?

    Monks pointed out Sweden the rest have taken the euro and the others economies don’t qualify yet
    I'm not too interested in joining the argument but I struggle to see why it matters. If it's in relation to Scotland keeping sterling I think the main fact is that it is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basingstokered View Post
    For someone who likes to point out the faults in other people posts I’ll imagine there’s a me after word remind.

    Okay which of the member states that joined prior to 1999 still use their own currency ?

    Monks pointed out Sweden the rest have taken the euro and the others economies don’t qualify yet
    I didn’t point out your use of the word “originally”

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    Good old Buc, the story is 5yrs old and it's created 8 pages

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    I ken, and now he’s being accused of being anti-semitic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo1983 View Post
    Good old Buc, the story is 5yrs old and it's created 8 pages
    For ****'s sake dinna mention that Kirsty MacColl's been as deid as Bashingbishopred's economic knowledge is, since December 2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basingstokered View Post
    The free market is called CAPITALISM.
    “ For enthusiasts of capitalism, democracy and the market are said to be handmaidens. Both depend on the rule of law. Both express aspects of liberty, prizing opportunity and mobility. During the era of classical liberalism, which began in the late eigh****th century, free commerce and political freedom advanced in tandem. Monarchies gave way to republican rule; open markets replaced royal monopolies and inherited privileges. For about a century the franchise gradually expanded, and the markets became the primary mode of commerce. The brand of democratic capitalusm that emerged in the west after WWII included not just those earlier hallmarks but such liberal values as tolerance, compromise, and enlarged civic participation, as well as regulatory and social welfare policies to buffer the less-savory (sic) tendencies of markets. Modern capitalusm reflected a grand social bargain.
    When communism collapsed in 1989, the fall of the Berlin Wall was heralded as ushering in a golden age in which liberal capitalism would be triumphant. Needless to say, things haven’t worked out quite as expected. The social compromises of the post-war welfare state have given way to more primitive forms of capitalism that in turn invite angry reactions by the citizenry. Demagogues have channeled this anger. Today, some form of capitalism is ascendent nearly everywhere. But liberal democracy is in big trouble.
    Instead of creating a new golden age, corrupted capitalism has produced alliances between autocrats and oligarchs, epitomised by the régimes of Putin and Trump, who both reinforce societies that were becoming less liberal and more unequal. This is the pattern not just in countries with weak or non-existent democratic traditions, notably Russia and China, but in the very heartland of liberal democracy, the USA. Contrary to standard assumptions about liberalism, autocratic capitalism also co-exists and interacts with enlarged global trade, making it harder to defend living standards in democratic nations that once protected their workers and citizens by regulating markets.
    In a cycle of reactivity, ordinary people turn not to social democracy - now at its weakest point since WWII - but to the vicarious and counterfeit satisfactions of extreme nationalism. That in turn permits autocrats to pose as populist champions of a mystical People, diverting attention from the economy’s concentrated wealth and rigged rules. This unexpected twist in the fraught relationship between democracy and capitalism is the signal event in the political economy of our age.”

    (Robert Kuttner, reviewing Branko Milanovic’s ‘Capitalism, Alone: The Future of the System That Rules the World’
    New York Review of Books issue September 24, 2020 (?))”

    What a **** that was to copy type from the NYRB. I spoil you lot.

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    Been a while since I was on here.A version of Palestine you wont here on mainstream media

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ReF4UUa4E

    Son of the leader of Hamas at the UN.Watch his story the Green Prince on youtube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2NaiX-hvVQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euvNE9KtkpE
    Last edited by elginred; 07-09-2020 at 05:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elginred View Post
    Been a while since I was on here.A version of Palestine you wont here on mainstream media

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ReF4UUa4E

    Son of the leader of Hamas at the UN.Watch his story the Green Prince on youtube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2NaiX-hvVQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euvNE9KtkpE
    The people that made the cheap flimsy youtube are;

    http://www.hirhome.com/

    Check out their website.

    A version you won't hear in mainstream media indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elginred View Post
    Been a while since I was on here.A version of Palestine you wont here on mainstream media

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ReF4UUa4E

    Son of the leader of Hamas at the UN.Watch his story the Green Prince on youtube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2NaiX-hvVQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euvNE9KtkpE
    To be fair when you have the likes of North Korea, Qatar, Syria, Iran complaining of human rights abuse you may have a problem !!

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