Motherwell (A)

[TerryTheTerror]

Time will tell whether yesterday was a good point and marked a turnaround in our current fortunes or whether we were simply just lucky as phuck.

Forgetting even the ludicrous penalty decision, we could/should have been at least two down at half time and what the big worry currently is that we show zero current ability to get anything should we fall behind. The inability to create anywhere near a high enough level of goal scoring chances is totally alarming. This is going to put mega stress on the back line because at the moment it feels like if we don’t get a clean sheet then we’re beat. Pure and simple. The fact Nicky Clark scored on his debut yesterday rubs massive salt in that particular wound.

But, at the end of the day it was still a decent point yesterday which breaks our league losing streak but we simply MUST beat Hibs next week. I don’t care how we do it, but we must, because we all know where we go the week after after that. If we don’t beat Hibs, we’re guaranteed to be cut adrift come the international break. So FFS United, enough is enough, get yer erses in gear and get it sorted.

We did score 2 against Livi in the cup. But, yes, we hardly looked likely to score yesterday from what I have seen of it.

[TerryTheTerror]

Watching us yesterday and looking at Celtic destroy Coonty 4-1 away making 10 changes from our game and then destroying Sevco yesterday 4-0,were we too quick to get rid of JR after only 6 competitive games? I suppose being on the end of a 7 and a 9 made it easy for us to get rid but make no mistake that Celtic team will be handing out 5,6 and 7s to teams for the rest of the season so opposition managers better beware.

I agree with some of that, Celtc are miles ahead of anything in our league. However, I'll be pretty surprised if they scud any other team by 9 goals this season...

[Whitfieldarab]

Pains me to say i think Ceptic will 100% this season unless they have a really bad Euro hangover, but i cant see that happening. But like you say, they can field a second team and probably get a result out of any game this season.

All depends on what the real story is regarding JRs removal, but if he didnt have the support of the players then he was on a hiding to nothing in whatever he did.

A Liam Smith interview was on stv news on Friday night and he said that JR had the backing of the players and that they were enjoying his training sessions etc. I don't know how sincere his interview was but to me it looked OK!

I'd heard a hundred rumours before yesterday and a hundred more on the bus/pub yesterday too and to be honest I'm fkn sick hearing all these conspiracy theories and the crux of it all is that player power has taken over at our club........6 competitive games for a manager who most on here wanted to take over from TC and many stated he was an upgrade.

[TerryTheTerror]

We'll probably never get to the crux of what went wrong with JR's brief tenure. He'll have his opinion, the players will have theirs, the club senior management will have theirs. Ultimately it's a results driven business and that's what seen for the termination of his time.

[Arabdownsouth]

I hope to **** Tony Watt shags Asghar's missus soon

[JUSTaway]

My initial thought was to give Ross the Livi and Motherwell games, but he was never going to turn it round, better getting him out asp in a bid to turn this round. I think a decent man-manager can manage that dressing room, he'd get the players onside and if there were any bad apples he'd jettison them. I really don't know about Big Dunc, the media would love it, it's one thing coming and getting players motivated for 2-3 games, but that fades and inevitably it comes down to tactical know-how etc... and I don't have any clue if he would be any good at that. People sometimes get carried away by a big name, he couldn't wait to get out of Tannadice first time round! Don't see any harm in keeping Fox in charge for short term at least.

I do think we have huge problems watching us yesterday however, strip away the calamity of Jack Ross matches, and you can see the team closer to its level yesterday, and we are so soft and open for the opposition to attack us from midfield it is frightening, and going forward we are absolutely woeful despite all the new additions. Levitt has gone off the boil, we still lack pace (watt and fletcher are slow), so we aren't controlling games from midfield, protecting the defence, or creating anything. I actually think McGrath, Levitt and Harkes are ok, it's just the balance with them and the foward players is all wrong. First thing I would be doing is putting Watt on the bench, he is contributing nothing, get someone in who can play closer to Fletcher, and can maybe makes runs in behind, maybe Anaku if he is any good.

Do we have any youngsters that can play a def mid role? Moore?

[Arabs4ever]

My initial thought was to give Ross the Livi and Motherwell games, but he was never going to turn it round, better getting him out asp in a bid to turn this round. I think a decent man-manager can manage that dressing room, he'd get the players onside and if there were any bad apples he'd jettison them. I really don't know about Big Dunc, the media would love it, it's one thing coming and getting players motivated for 2-3 games, but that fades and inevitably it comes down to tactical know-how etc... and I don't have any clue if he would be any good at that. People sometimes get carried away by a big name, he couldn't wait to get out of Tannadice first time round! Don't see any harm in keeping Fox in charge for short term at least.

I do think we have huge problems watching us yesterday however, strip away the calamity of Jack Ross matches, and you can see the team closer to its level yesterday, and we are so soft and open for the opposition to attack us from midfield it is frightening, and going forward we are absolutely woeful despite all the new additions. Levitt has gone off the boil, we still lack pace (watt and fletcher are slow), so we aren't controlling games from midfield, protecting the defence, or creating anything. I actually think McGrath, Levitt and Harkes are ok, it's just the balance with them and the foward players is all wrong. First thing I would be doing is putting Watt on the bench, he is contributing nothing, get someone in who can play closer to Fletcher, and can maybe makes runs in behind, maybe Anaku if he is any good.

Do we have any youngsters that can play a def mid role? Moore?

Against Hibs I'd have Fletcher and Happy from the start up front. Ask questions first and take the lead and the game unfolds differently. Sit back and knock the ball up to Fletcher on his own up top we will get a defeat and rightly so.

[Whitfieldarab]

......and don't get me started on that fkn drum.....30 NEDS and a drum.

Can't wait for this Ultra pish to fade out. It works with a thousand fans marching with pyro etc but 30 NEDS and a drum can fk right off.

[TerryTheTerror]

......and don't get me started on that fkn drum.....30 NEDS and a drum.

Can't wait for this Ultra pish to fade out. It works with a thousand fans marching with pyro etc but 30 NEDS and a drum can fk right off.

Totally agree. It boggles my mind a kid can't take a fruit shoot into a match but a drum and sticks, no bother. It's an arsehole of a thing these days.

[JUSTaway]

Maybe the drum is used to smuggle 30+ fruit shoots into the match.