McClean whinging again.

[vaterland_miller]

Bold claim there. Seeing as Lol hasn't slapped you down for keeping the topic going, I'll enquire.

Who for you exactly are the Marxist woke mob?

What laws have they changed as examples of what you're talking about?

What free speech could you speak before the Marxist woke mob changed the laws, that you can't speak now? What would you like to say now, on this board for instance, that you don't feel you are allowed to say now?

The Marxism stuff comes from the Social Science departments of universities - It follows on from the failure of Marxism to be accepted and it includes sociological dogma such as Critical Race Theory. It has found its way into what we call the establishment (all political parties, education, civil service, armed forces, courts, police, NHS, local authorities, commerce etc). An example is the new obsession with what they call "diversity". Douglas Murray explains very well who the Marxist woke mob are in his books e.g. these two:
"The Madness of Crowds: Gender, Race and Identity"; THE SUNDAY TIMES BESTSELLER
"The War on the West"

If you want a quick video of Douglas try this (under 10 minutes):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNz2OkeoDA

This is a bit more detail (1hr 10mins):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYaYk09kEDs

If you have a spare 2hrs 38mins you could watch Douglas here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG7I6Bt_NZY



Here is an example of changed law in the UK:
https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/...ality-act-2010

https://www.port.ac.uk/news-events-a...ality-act-2010

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ow-extend-pub/

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...of-recruitment



Its not a good idea to say anything that could upset one of the "protected groups" - even if it is true. I don't wish to provide any examples.

[Brin]

Ferkin heck all I wanted to do, was to highlight McClean whinging again. Now we’re all back at school thanks to VM 😄😄

[vaterland_miller]

Ferkin heck all I wanted to do, was to highlight McClean whinging again. Now we’re all back at school thanks to VM 😄😄

I'm really sorry Brin. I wish I had kept out of it. I don't know much about the lad McClean and I loved our dear Queen Elizabeth .

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

I'm really sorry Brin. I wish I had kept out of it. I don't know much about the lad McClean and I loved our dear Queen Elizabeth .

Even though what you posted was spot on

Batman and Robin ( or is it Del and Rodney) won’t like it though

Against the brainwashing

[avondalemiller]

.................it's all gone quiet over there................(smiley face)

[Brin]

I'm really sorry Brin. I wish I had kept out of it. I don't know much about the lad McClean and I loved our dear Queen Elizabeth .

Feel free to add pal it’s an open board.

[John2]

The Marxism stuff comes from the Social Science departments of universities - It follows on from the failure of Marxism to be accepted and it includes sociological dogma such as Critical Race Theory. It has found its way into what we call the establishment (all political parties, education, civil service, armed forces, courts, police, NHS, local authorities, commerce etc). An example is the new obsession with what they call "diversity". Douglas Murray explains very well who the Marxist woke mob are in his books e.g. these two:
"The Madness of Crowds: Gender, Race and Identity"; THE SUNDAY TIMES BESTSELLER
"The War on the West"

If you want a quick video of Douglas try this (under 10 minutes):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNz2OkeoDA

Jeez, I gave your video a try, are these the sort of personalities you're letting spoonfed you your narrative? Not even 5 minutes in and they're already framing "wokism" it as an attack on Christianity and its values, and worried that the children are going to miss out on these things.

This marxism link is a bit tedious. It also plays to cheap stereotypes. I'm a capitalist and don't think people who have had a *** change after puberty should be winning women's weightlifting competitions either. This tries to pigeonhole people like me as Marxists.

Don't form your views being told what to think by people on YouTube, or at least occasionally expose yourself to counter-arguments.

The YouTube algorithm is an echo chamber by design, at least be aware you'll just get shown more and more of the things you watch and fewer alternative perspectives.

Funny that the best we get is a general link to "laws" rather than anyone naming a law they actually have a problem with. Can anyone name something they think people should be allowed to say but can't?

[John2]

but don't complain when you hear something that you don't like or agree with.

This is a pretty bleak vision you have of society? Nobody should speak out when they oppose something? I'm not being flippant... is that actually what you think? Or only when they oppose something you also oppose?

J K Rowling(for example) spoke out women and the Trans issues/rights and the poo hit the fan from the "cancel" culture mob. They want you to listen to them but don't want to listen to you if you've a different view, they just spit the dummy out and cry "cancel" them

Here we go again...

What free speech laws did JK Rowling break?

The answer is ZERO. You got to hear her views. That is free speech. What don't people get about this!?

If people hear views they don't like they're allowed to boycott that individual. That's their free speech too.

The only way we avoid this scenario is if you make it illegal to disagree with someone. Then we actually lose free speech.

All this cancel culture stuff, when people list actual examples of things they have issues with, isn't a free speech issue at all.

It's often just boomers getting upset that they can't say outdated views without people disagreeing with them.


Please name a single example of things that people actually banned from saying that they shouldn't be.

The closest you will get is that people have faced disciplinary action for things they have done or said at work that have made people uncomfortable around them, but when we work we have to agree to a certain standard of behaviour. That applies to all jobs and not even about what we say, and is entirely reasonable for employers to protect their reputation and the working environment.

I'll wait for an example....

[MillerBill]

This is a pretty bleak vision you have of society? Nobody should speak out when they oppose something? I'm not being flippant... is that actually what you think? Or only when they oppose something you also oppose?



Here we go again...

What free speech laws did JK Rowling break?

The answer is ZERO. You got to hear her views. That is free speech. What don't people get about this!?

If people hear views they don't like they're allowed to boycott that individual. That's their free speech too.

The only way we avoid this scenario is if you make it illegal to disagree with someone. Then we actually lose free speech.

All this cancel culture stuff, when people list actual examples of things they have issues with, isn't a free speech issue at all.

It's often just boomers getting upset that they can't say outdated views without people disagreeing with them.


Please name a single example of things that people actually banned from saying that they shouldn't be.

The closest you will get is that people have faced disciplinary action for things they have done or said at work that have made people uncomfortable around them, but when we work we have to agree to a certain standard of behaviour. That applies to all jobs and not even about what we say, and is entirely reasonable for employers to protect their reputation and the working environment.

I'll wait for an example....

What a bore,get a life man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[John2]

What a bore,get a life man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that the best critique you can manage?

Why not try actually contributing to the discussion? Give a perspective?

Let's be honest, we're all just as sad as each other for posting on a political thread on millers mad.