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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by pieandbovrilman View Post
    Why would it be his “last throw of the dice”?
    Because I think if Robson does get the bullet and the next appointment doesn't work out then he'll take a massive back seat in attendance etc with regards AFC.

    I don't think he'd look to get out completely but wouldn't expect to see him so involved as he is just now.

  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by rico94 View Post
    No you are well within your right to think a top manager is going to come here to finish 3rd and get to the odd final.

    It’s just highly likely you are going to end up disappointed when Robsons replacement gets appointed.
    Very possibly but I'd much rather live in the hope that we could attract a better calibre of managers than the ones you suggested, especially given the rhetoric around top 100 club etc.

    As for previous managers then I can't say I've been particularly enthused with any appointments since Ebbe, they all ticked a box but none were very inspiring and had me excited and what the potential could be.

  3. #73
    I do not see any structure or tactical ingenuity in the way Robson sets up and has set up the team

    It's a back 5 and pretty much hoof the ball towards the strikers in a 5-3-2 or a 5-4-1 which he has used for a few games

    I do not see him as somebody who can ever win games on a tactical level, purely more of a motivator who can get teams wound up for the odd game here and there and run them into the ground to get an occasional respectable performance and result which is physcially unsustainable in a 2 game a week period

    I just do not see any progression as a football team with him as a manger, there is more to football than just running around a lot and hoofing it, it's borderline hit and hope

    There are good technical players at the club in the middle of the park, notably Barron and Clarkson, but they are just being bypassed completely in most games with the direct style and complete tack of width due to the wingback set up

    I would hate to see Robson go and be replaced with another boring manager who sets up with 5 at the back and playing direct like Robson does, i would prefer a manager who is more technical and plays a 4-3-3 and develop that style through the entire club from first team to youth sides with an emphasis purely on he technical side to gradually improve the teams footballing philosophy, and stick with that style even when it fails as the end goal is to improve the club long term

    Problem is of course, is the clubs entire recruitment model was around playing 5 at the back, too many centre backs, most of whom are poor on the ball and end up hoofing it, and too many central strikers who can't really play as wide forwards, the club have signed too many players in these positions and spent money doing it, we paid half a million for a lad up top who has barely had a kick because of the tactical approach and the inability to play anywhere other than centrally
    Last edited by LongDistanceRed; 07-12-2023 at 04:23 PM.

  4. #74
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    Even if we did find the next coming of Fergie in our next appointment, any success would see them snapped up by a bigger club.

    We have a Cup Final to look forward to in 10 days time and there is zero excitement about it. I doubt the mood will lift much even if we do win it.

  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongDistanceRed View Post
    I do not see any structure or tactical ingenuity in the way Robson sets up and has set up the team

    It's a back 5 and pretty much hoof the ball towards the strikers in a 5-3-2 or a 5-4-1 which he has used for a few games

    I do not see him as somebody who can ever win games on a tactical level, purely more of a motivator who can get teams wound up for the odd game here and there and run them into the ground to get an occasional respectable performance and result which is physcially unsustainable in a 2 game a week period

    I just do not see any progression as a football team with him as a manger, there is more to football than just running around a lot and hoofing it, it's borderline hit and hope

    There are good technical players at the club in the middle of the park, notably Barron and Clarkson, but they are just being bypassed completely in most games with the direct style and complete tack of width due to the wingback set up

    I would hate to see Robson go and be replaced with another boring manager who sets up with 5 at the back and playing direct like Robson does, i would prefer a manager who is more technical and plays a 4-3-3 and develop that style through the entire club from first team to youth sides with an emphasis purely on he technical side to gradually improve the teams footballing philosophy, and stick with that style even when it fails as the end goal is to improve the club long term

    Problem is of course, is the clubs entire recruitment model was around playing 5 at the back, too many centre backs, most of whom are poor on the ball and end up hoofing it, and too many central strikers who can't really play as wide forwards, the club have signed too many players in these positions and spent money doing it, we paid half a million for a lad up top who has barely had a kick because of the tactical approach and the inability to play anywhere other than centrally
    I thought we were trying to play out from the back last night and it was horrendous to watch.Pretty much Roos passing the ball back and forth to the centre backs with one eventually passing it forward which resulted in Kilmarnock winning the ball back.

    Glass and Goodwin both tried to play that way and the tactic from the opposition is to just sit back and let us pass the ball around at the back and then win it back when we try to play it further forward.

    It’s all very well playing out from the back if you have players like Man City do but it’s never going to work trying to get the likes of David Bates,Anthony Stewart or Richard Jensen to do it.

    We might be more of an entertaining side if we had players who could actually run with the ball and beat people.No one in our team seems capable of doing that this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico94 View Post
    I thought we were trying to play out from the back last night and it was horrendous to watch.Pretty much Roos passing the ball back and forth to the centre backs with one eventually passing it forward which resulted in Kilmarnock winning the ball back.

    Glass and Goodwin both tried to play that way and the tactic from the opposition is to just sit back and let us pass the ball around at the back and then win it back when we try to play it further forward.

    It’s all very well playing out from the back if you have players like Man City do but it’s never going to work trying to get the likes of David Bates,Anthony Stewart or Richard Jensen to do it.

    We might be more of an entertaining side if we had players who could actually run with the ball and beat people.No one in our team seems capable of doing that this season.
    Unless there is anyone in the young loons we have only 2 "Wingers". Morris who has been injured and still has a lot to prove and Vinny who no AFC manager seems to want to play, despite him being the best option we have. He should be the option when we are trying to break down a defence/need a goal rather than relying on full backs to provide width

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0chred View Post
    Unless there is anyone in the young loons we have only 2 "Wingers". Morris who has been injured and still has a lot to prove and Vinny who no AFC manager seems to want to play, despite him being the best option we have. He should be the option when we are trying to break down a defence/need a goal rather than relying on full backs to provide width
    I don’t think Vinny is a winger,he was tried there a few times but lack of pace and height prevented him from being able to get past defenders.

    He seemed to play his best games in the no 10 role. I wouldn’t have a problem with him playing in that position as McGrath has been quiet in some games but he’s been frozen out by 2 managers which would suggest there’s an issue with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico94 View Post
    I don’t think Vinny is a winger,he was tried there a few times but lack of pace and height prevented him from being able to get past defenders.

    He seemed to play his best games in the no 10 role. I wouldn’t have a problem with him playing in that position as McGrath has been quiet in some games but he’s been frozen out by 2 managers which would suggest there’s an issue with him.
    That's all true, but it is infuriating when we have a player on our books who could improve the 1st team and isn't even on the bench. Particularly when we are pants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0chred View Post
    On the matter of Cormack, I pose the same question to you. Who would you have in charge then? Let's face it there aren't queues of billionaires champing at the bit to invest in us. At least Cormack has loosened the purse strings for signings, regardless of what people think of them. I have no truck with Cormack, at least he's a Red and is a significant improvement in our last incumbent.
    Broch, firstly apologies for nae replying to your question sooner, time difference and all that.
    I don't have the answers min and if I did I woodna be stuck doing what I do for a living to try and keep the wolves from the door and pay the bills.
    All I know is that since our plastic yank of a chairman took charge things have nae been great, I never thought Glass was the correct replacement for McInnes and I certainly never thought that Jim fkn Cantwin was the correct replacement for Glass.
    Then, after how Robson turned our fortunes around last season he deserved his chance, and I, like many others thought the answer to our managerial issues had always been in the building and we would be heading in the right direction.
    But again it appears as if I / we were wrong, begs the question as interim manager he was left to his own devices as colgate teeth and the FMB were searching for a permanent gaffer. Barry did his own thing and got their attention, they have to give him the job, but now colgate and his pals are not looking for a permanent gaffer and are back to being tooooooooo close and toooooooo involved in the actual footballing side of things and Barry and the squad are getting hacked off with it.
    Maybe I am speaking utter sh1te (winna be the first time or the last time I suppose)
    But there might be some food for thought in that.
    So, i dinna have the answers but something needs to change

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