Kilmarnock v Aberdeen

[ZakkTheMakk]

Why would he spend so much money on players and go for the cheap option when appointing a manager?

He’s already said that Glass wasn’t his first choice but went with him after he got turned down by another manager.

The rumours of last season was he wanted Chris Wilder to replace Goodwin but he wasn’t interested.

I agree there are other factors to managers not wanting to come here but having Dave Cormack trying to play money ball is probably the biggest one.

Now what you're saying are rumours and gossip whereas what I'm saying is factual with regards his appointments.

Glass may have not been his first choice but you've no idea who his first choice was so who is to say that his first choice wasn't a cheap option also but turned Cormack down for a different job? I mean it's every bit as credible as what you're saying right?

Cormack playing money ball is "probably" the issue? Again that's your thought but you have no idea that that's true or waaaaaay off the mark.

Read what I said again and pick holes in the facts I said rather than the rumours you're putting forward.

[rico94]

Even our attacking throw in's have reverted to "hoofball". I could be wrong we have tried at least 100 times to score from this "tactic", I'm pretty sure it hasn't worked once, it's just meat and drink to the opposition defenders. We're rapidly becoming a Livi lookalike

Yeah that’s annoying me as well with the long throws,it’s never worked and it’s almost like Robson is telling the players to keep trying it because it will eventually work.Mix it up a little.

He needs to take Duk out of the firing line for a while,it’s looking like teams have sussed out how to stop him and he’s reverted to falling over every time he gets touched which is never going to go his way when he’s playing for us.

I’m not sure what’s going on with the “hoofball” as well in regards to whether it’s all down to Robson or it’s the players.

Either way I have to say some of the passing I have seen from the players this season is nothing short of abysmal,there are some supposedly technically good players in the squad and they are struggling to pass the ball 5 yards to a teammate.

[rico94]

Now what you're saying are rumours and gossip whereas what I'm saying is factual with regards his appointments.

Glass may have not been his first choice but you've no idea who his first choice was so who is to say that his first choice wasn't a cheap option also but turned Cormack down for a different job? I mean it's every bit as credible as what you're saying right?

Cormack playing money ball is "probably" the issue? Again that's your thought but you have no idea that that's true or waaaaaay off the mark.

Read what I said again and pick holes in the facts I said rather than the rumours you're putting forward.

What the hell are you wittering on about now?

The points you made are factual?

They are were all just you guessing what is going on it was nothing to do with facts.

You came on here 2 months ago because you were chomping at the bit to say you wanted rid of Robson then threw your toys out of your pram when you were told to wise up.

Now it’s gone the way you wanted you are being a smug little git.

Is that factual enough for you?

[rico94]

Cormack hasn’t appointed an experienced manager because “it seems “

How is that factual you moron

[ZakkTheMakk]

Ooooh look at the hardman, again look at all what I wrote and I'm fairly sure there are more facts in what I wrote than anything you've probably ever said on here.

Go and cry into your paw patrol hankies ya moron.

[rico94]

I’m not a hard man stavros none of us are on here.

Can’t really be bothered arguing with you but I suppose as far as facts go Cormacks spent a lot of money on players and hasn’t on managers for some reason, that’s a fact.

Either way there’s a huge chance you will get your wish and Robson will be gone sooner rather than later.

Let’s see where we are this time next year, personally I think we will be in the same position even when Robson is long gone.

[Mason89]

I’m not a hard man stavros none of us are on here.

Speak for yourself, I’m f*cking nails

[ZakkTheMakk]

I’m not a hard man stavros none of us are on here.

Can’t really be bothered arguing with you but I suppose as far as facts go Cormacks spent a lot of money on players and hasn’t on managers for some reason, that’s a fact.

Either way there’s a huge chance you will get your wish and Robson will be gone sooner rather than later.

Let’s see where we are this time next year, personally I think we will be in the same position even when Robson is long gone.

"Can't really be bothered arguing with you" because as you state after, what I said were facts? Well that's awful grand of you.

You make it out that I originally and have always wanted Robson to fail? "get your wish"??? I like Robson and after what he done for us after Goodwin then it only strengthened my admiration for him. Sadly though he has had 21 games since he got the contract and has only won 5 of those games, those being last seasons St Mirren and this season Stirling Albion, Ross County twice and Sevco away. We're 10th in as piss poor a league as I can remember for some time.

Our style of play is horrendous for the most part, can we agree on that? He is playing players that have needed benched for some time (Duk). He has been given the biggest transfer kitty most likely of all time for an AFC manager and the new recruits are mostly either on the bench or not even in the squad.

He has spoken at length about the amount of games we're playing and tiredness/fatigue being an issue and then plays the same 13/14 players week in week out. Finally after Sundays game has he admitted his mistakes with this but it shouldn't take 21 games as a full time manager to notice this was a major issue.

Like every AFC supporter I only wish the best for the team and to see improvements married with desire/hunger etc but sadly we go through the motions of hoofball most games and our "star" player Clarkson can't even get into the starting 11 as we bypass him most games with long balls.

Please can someone show me the progress Robson has made to convince me that he is worthy of more time, I'd love to get a reasoned reply that could sway me the other way but as the matches roll on then if anything the Robson must stay supporters numbers dwindle.

[ZakkTheMakk]

What the hell are you wittering on about now?

The points you made are factual?

They are were all just you guessing what is going on it was nothing to do with facts.

You came on here 2 months ago because you were chomping at the bit to say you wanted rid of Robson then threw your toys out of your pram when you were told to wise up.

Now it’s gone the way you wanted you are being a smug little git.

Is that factual enough for you?

More based on fact than anything you wrote that's for sure. Was Glass a cheap option? Yes. Was Goodwin a non expensive option? Yes. Was Robson a cheap option? Yes.

Forgive me but what isn't factual about those things?

All you put forward were rumours and gossip as I said and you get all offended when someone calls you out on it.

I'm being a smug little git? What a phanny you are. Where in anything I've written today have I been smug?

Yes I wasn't happy last month and I wasn't alone but I never called for Robson's head and as we're further down the line with no improvement then I don't think it's unfair to say his time is up.

If you can't handle that then it's on you but don't take your rage out on me.

[rustlinsweetiepapers]

It’s sad to see ZTM again resorting to ad hominem attacks over something which I doubt anyone here has an answer to. Why have professional footballers who have played so successfully elsewhere that they have earned relatively lucrative contracts at Aberdeen turned to humping the ball up the park and using long throw-ins as the sole method of attack? Is it an implementation of the coaching strategy (and there are coaches other than Barry who will be working specifically on set plays) or down to the players? Often a team is a reflection of its manager and spineless, gutless or clueless were never adjectives which could be applied to Robson. I suggest anyone who can analyse this adequately and provide a solution get off this board and wheech their cv across to Pittodrie immediately.

Why spend more on players than a manager? I suppose in business terms you can amortise the cost of a player over the length of his contract (a frequent bone of contention in FFP arguments). So far as I know you can’t do this with a manager - initial compensation to previous club and salary is all opex (bean counters feel free to correct me). Similarly, taking in a Duk or a Miovski, the business (not football) hope is that they will be sold at a huge profit (as with Cosgrove, Ferguson, McKenna). There might be compensation for a poached manager but never at the same levels. Statistically and sadly, it is more likely a club will be paying up the balance of a manager’s contract when he is sacked following the collective pant-pishing of the support. A successful manager will bring folk through the gates (though that has never been dramatically apparent in Aberdeen from the 1980s onwards) but he doesn’t sell shirts (massively profitable items manufactured in Chinese sweat shops).